i think we were made by something higher up

but i don't believe it's present at the moment

Hold on, let me go grab a little thing I wrote up

That's a very strange place to be in, bruce. I'm sure we can explore it another time in the future.

'place to be in'

cheers freud

😎

Truth not only frees; but it also acts as metal. Durable and strong, with a capability to both strike and shield. Truth is the freer, the shield, and the sword of all peoples and all persons. Truth is everything; regardless of how subjective we are, as just navie creatures.

That's very nice, CPR.

how does that have any revelance?

Cause you don't seek truth.

@Deleted User You are so full of shit, don't jump on others.

@Deleted User big man over here

You just go with the modern flow, it would seem.

oooooooooo full of shit

don't question anyone

don't do it!

I mean, you basically responsed to the idea that our deeper connections and natures are conditioned out.

you think you're edgy

>god
>but not supernatural
Can you have your cake and eat it?

no present spirituality

no supernatural presence

We all know conditioning happens in the modern world, it is how society is held together.

Conditioning is HUGE.

It's not about seeking the truth

So some of our less efficent, but more important in the grand scheme of things, traits are washed out.

if truth is subjective like you said

Like innate morality, innate spiritual connection, so on and so forth.

You can't believe in a God which is natural, that's redundant. Sort yourself out, bruce.

you can't explain your beliefs in the supernatural

And for fucks sake, use a capital letter.

i don't have ocd

what you said makes no sense

It is stolen from us as children; this is why people like you laugh at us.

I never said God wasn't supernatural

I said he wasn't present

What does that mean?

He is no longer an active factor

Fucking CAPITALIZE He

He is the He, not a he.

The blind watchmaker?

It's redundant.

Something of the sort

Learn physics.

Did you just assume god's gender?

particles don't just appear

cause and effect

They do.

how did the particles get there for the big bang?

explaining the universe isn't explaining the bang

Quantum vacuum.

it's explaining those particles

which you cannot do

quantum physics is proof of god

Get educated http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/

It's not.

Atheism is a cancer

So many supposed "proofs" of god fall apart when you add in simulation theory as an alternative explanation for the structure of our reality.

you may as well be Agnostic

Quantum physics has Nothing to do with God. Holy shit.

Thomas Aquinas' five ways could be used as a way to prove simulation theory just as well as god's existence.

Not really.

Ugh, this chat needs some ponies

Aquinas' Aristolean logic specifies that nature of the prime mover.

hold up

Ultimately we just don't know what the reason for existence is.

I'm afraid you're all wrong.

You can't believe particles just exist

that is against physics

it doesn't just exist

It's not.

it needs a cause

a creation

So what? All of his proofs end with "This everyone understands to be God.", but `God` could be replaced with practically anything.

how did the particles get there?

Nope.

Because vacuum is unstable. Particles come in and out of existance all the time. That's the basis of Quantum you retard.

Be distracted by techno colour horses Goyim.

in and out from what?

other dimensions?

if so how would this dimension be created?

and how would those?

it's an endless loop

And it all goes back to something

one source

Even if you manage to explain the existence of particles out of nothing, you can never explain the "ruleset" that our multiverse operates in and why physical/mathematical constants are set the way they are

You see, you're the like "Deism is the new atheism"

You can only explain a system from within so far

Not really. The particles that form are postive and negative. They only exist as potentials mostly. But they still exist. They arise in pairs and then fade out.

Your fundamental idea of reality is wrong, to be honest.

"Your fundamental idea of reality is wrong, to be honest."
Just being honest tho

Like Hawking radiation, if that helps.

no homo

It's too hard for a little retard like me to have a good conversation with a simply incorrect view of the universe.

no offense

I'm not trying to be a dick.

I just spew shit xd

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/