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2017-08-03 12:21:27 UTC

you believe in spiritualist shit

2017-08-03 12:21:28 UTC

Oh, have you ever watched InspiringPhilophosy?

2017-08-03 12:21:29 UTC

but ur an athiest?

2017-08-03 12:21:35 UTC

I believe in God.

2017-08-03 12:21:44 UTC

In what form?

2017-08-03 12:21:46 UTC

wtf have u been saying this whole time then

2017-08-03 12:21:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/342643252408745984/insane.gif

2017-08-03 12:22:05 UTC

We believe in more then a God who just amde this world and then walked away.

2017-08-03 12:22:09 UTC

Me and Chopin anyway.

2017-08-03 12:22:29 UTC

Trying to define God with physics and human understanding has always been a mistake and trying to fill in self-imposed gaps. We know we can never prove it.

2017-08-03 12:22:47 UTC

Yes we can

2017-08-03 12:22:49 UTC

So just accept God is real according to what is possible.

2017-08-03 12:22:53 UTC

what up human faggots, you're all going to hell for not going to church each sunday, pranked

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/342643486086135818/Cima_da_Conegliano2C_God_the_Father.png

2017-08-03 12:22:56 UTC

*sigh*

2017-08-03 12:23:06 UTC

I learnt this early on when converting.

2017-08-03 12:23:07 UTC

How can you say what is possible in the future

2017-08-03 12:23:09 UTC

God is not to be proven.

2017-08-03 12:23:22 UTC

You sound like blind followers

2017-08-03 12:23:23 UTC

You are meant to actively reach out to him on the basis of valuable faith and love.

2017-08-03 12:23:38 UTC

You'll never succeed. Like a dog chasing its tail. All we can do is show a way with current understanding, never prove it. It's like Abraham asking for mercy.

2017-08-03 12:23:46 UTC

If you don't, if yu do it for selfish reasons or becaue it's just the law of science, then you aren't a good person.

2017-08-03 12:24:05 UTC

I believe in a god to be a better person

2017-08-03 12:24:10 UTC

to establish a moral compass

2017-08-03 12:24:14 UTC

Sure.

2017-08-03 12:24:30 UTC

But I don't think it can be ruled out that it can be never proven

2017-08-03 12:24:40 UTC

who knows how far we will advance

2017-08-03 12:24:41 UTC

Proof is the opposite of faith.

2017-08-03 12:24:46 UTC

Think about that.

2017-08-03 12:25:07 UTC

All religions revolve around this idea of "having to be a good person", which is of course defined differentely by every religion.
It's really just natural human morals wrapped in a supernatural explanation

2017-08-03 12:25:10 UTC

faith is the belief in proof

2017-08-03 12:25:18 UTC

It's not!

2017-08-03 12:25:23 UTC

Who taught you!?

2017-08-03 12:25:37 UTC

Please read Aquinas.

2017-08-03 12:25:46 UTC

depends what you see as proof

2017-08-03 12:25:52 UTC

I believe that the thing is: the proofs of God are meant to be easily shaken away. Because there can't be proof of Jesus Christ's struggle for YOU.

2017-08-03 12:26:16 UTC

Like, I don't know what to say else that. You guys need to reach out to God in the end.

2017-08-03 12:26:23 UTC

*else then

2017-08-03 12:26:42 UTC

@Deleted User It's much more than 'being a good person'. You can tell by our conversation about physics and the nature of proof.

2017-08-03 12:26:46 UTC

You don't just reach out to god

2017-08-03 12:26:53 UTC

There is no evidence of him

2017-08-03 12:26:57 UTC

it's just faith

2017-08-03 12:27:03 UTC

That's... the pont.

2017-08-03 12:27:06 UTC

*point

2017-08-03 12:27:14 UTC

Bruce, just fucking read Aquinas about Faith and Reason.

2017-08-03 12:27:26 UTC

That's just our curiosity and desire for knowledge, I don't see how this has much to do with religion

2017-08-03 12:27:34 UTC

Maybe if a faggot linked me it

2017-08-03 12:27:46 UTC

agrarian christian faggot

2017-08-03 12:27:54 UTC

Wow, wow.

2017-08-03 12:27:58 UTC

Dude, settle down.

2017-08-03 12:28:04 UTC

@Deleted User It's the same thing, according to Church history.

2017-08-03 12:28:08 UTC

Religion is finding a placeholder explanations to satisfy your curiosity prematurely.

2017-08-03 12:28:10 UTC

you obviously don't undersand my sense of humour

2017-08-03 12:28:11 UTC

>religion is sin ๐Ÿค”

2017-08-03 12:28:21 UTC

I'll find it, hold on bruce.

2017-08-03 12:28:47 UTC

as long as cause and effect holds true

2017-08-03 12:28:50 UTC

we can prove god

2017-08-03 12:28:52 UTC

fullstop

2017-08-03 12:29:10 UTC

The point is faith.

2017-08-03 12:29:14 UTC

Think about ti with anything else.

2017-08-03 12:29:30 UTC

If every day was sunny, every day was beautiful, if every relationship went well.

2017-08-03 12:29:37 UTC

Would there be no value in the goodness?

2017-08-03 12:29:37 UTC

this will take me too long to read

2017-08-03 12:29:40 UTC

Because I know you're a retard, skip to this section http://www.iep.utm.edu/faith-re/#SH4e

2017-08-03 12:29:54 UTC

On Aquinas.

2017-08-03 12:30:14 UTC

There would be none. Because nature would be good.

2017-08-03 12:30:26 UTC

So, we'd only make new issues.

2017-08-03 12:30:59 UTC

Just like faith, if faith was fact and everyone believed, there'd be no value.

2017-08-03 12:31:21 UTC

you believe in the supernatural?

2017-08-03 12:31:25 UTC

then how can you prove it?

2017-08-03 12:31:28 UTC

Of course.

2017-08-03 12:31:32 UTC

You don't.

2017-08-03 12:31:49 UTC

It exists, because this world is more then just atoms and our calculated expectations.

2017-08-03 12:32:07 UTC

While there are rules set by a rule maker, what actually made the west great

2017-08-03 12:32:09 UTC

(Christian science)

2017-08-03 12:32:21 UTC

The supernatural, techically, is anything we don't yet understand as natural.

2017-08-03 12:32:23 UTC

there are still things we simply will never understand complete.

2017-08-03 12:32:31 UTC

Scientists hate when I say this.

2017-08-03 12:32:56 UTC

The round earth used to be supernatural.

2017-08-03 12:33:01 UTC

That is the most interesting thing, isn't it Chopin?

2017-08-03 12:33:14 UTC

How Christian morality and points of view were the things that set the west apart?

2017-08-03 12:33:31 UTC

Yes!

2017-08-03 12:33:33 UTC

We became more alturistic; slashing through anglo-saxon pride culture.

2017-08-03 12:33:44 UTC

CPR has read about history. She is smarter than you all.

2017-08-03 12:34:03 UTC

tbh anglo-saxon pride is beautiful to behold

2017-08-03 12:34:10 UTC

wtf is ur username

2017-08-03 12:34:13 UTC

get the fk out

2017-08-03 12:34:17 UTC

The aether also used to be supernatural

2017-08-03 12:34:23 UTC

Anglos understood the value of agrarianism.

2017-08-03 12:34:26 UTC

And it's why jerrycucks and papists despise the glorious anglo

2017-08-03 12:34:37 UTC

i've read half way into this

2017-08-03 12:34:40 UTC

and it's boring as fk

2017-08-03 12:34:40 UTC

They don;t

2017-08-03 12:34:44 UTC

We marched on to find out the creator's many laws, for this world was law-filled made by a law-maker. The sun was not a God, but it was a creation of a God and it had well defined rules.

2017-08-03 12:34:46 UTC

just some cunt pondering on philosophical shit

2017-08-03 12:34:55 UTC

bruce, do you prefer video?

2017-08-03 12:35:06 UTC

don't talk to me like a 5 yr old

2017-08-03 12:35:10 UTC

yes i do

2017-08-03 12:35:14 UTC

xd

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