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2017-08-03 11:53:43 UTC

Yeah, basically.

2017-08-03 11:53:55 UTC

And don't forget neural implants and upgrades that shall come.

2017-08-03 11:54:25 UTC

once we have AI with super-human thinking ability (which will happen, perhaps even in our lifetimes), there will be no point in keeping humans alive any longer than necessary

2017-08-03 11:54:38 UTC

**Loud sigh**

2017-08-03 11:54:45 UTC

There is inherant value in conciousness.

2017-08-03 11:54:45 UTC

in fact, once humanity is fully automized, there will be no more point in keeping biological humans alive at all

2017-08-03 11:54:51 UTC

Without it, this universe does not exist.

2017-08-03 11:54:57 UTC

That implant that causes time to slow down, he said it would be boring and drive you crazy. I would totally go for that. You can always work toward increasing communication in that scenario.

2017-08-03 11:54:59 UTC

And from what we know, we are the only concious beings.

2017-08-03 11:55:24 UTC

Don't be a materialist ๐Ÿคข

2017-08-03 11:55:32 UTC

~~or a realist~~

2017-08-03 11:55:55 UTC

there is no more intrinsic value to a biological human than an electronic human

2017-08-03 11:56:01 UTC

Yes, humans are the only known intelligent live in the universe. It is possible that what we think is AI or new consciousness is just a faker. We should be careful about replacing ourselves too quickly.

2017-08-03 11:56:25 UTC

No, there is. At least, assuming you can't just upload a man's mind and conciousness.

2017-08-03 11:56:56 UTC

maybe you wouldn't want to do that in the first place

2017-08-03 11:57:03 UTC

Maybe!

2017-08-03 11:57:06 UTC

it'd be like creating angels and teaching them to behave like humans

2017-08-03 11:57:07 UTC

Well; as Chopin asid

2017-08-03 11:57:14 UTC

it could just be a fake.

2017-08-03 11:57:24 UTC

It could just be a collection of a person's memories and personality.

2017-08-03 11:57:28 UTC

While not them.

2017-08-03 11:57:36 UTC

But we couldn't really ever know.

2017-08-03 11:57:43 UTC

Actually, it'd be just like teleportation.

2017-08-03 11:57:48 UTC

It could just work like that.

2017-08-03 11:58:00 UTC

Or we could be killing a person when we do that, who is really that person.

2017-08-03 11:58:10 UTC

We'll never really know....

2017-08-03 11:58:14 UTC

I wouldn't do it.

2017-08-03 11:58:25 UTC

Yeah, I agree with Chopin.

2017-08-03 11:58:31 UTC

Jut doesn't seem safe.

2017-08-03 11:58:45 UTC

If I've got a thousand or two thousand years to live

2017-08-03 11:59:07 UTC

I'm not gonna take that chance for supposed immorality by compiuter

2017-08-03 11:59:18 UTC

at some point you would likely grow tired of living and just kill yourself

2017-08-03 11:59:22 UTC

Interesting.

2017-08-03 11:59:27 UTC

No.

2017-08-03 11:59:37 UTC

I would never kill myself either.

2017-08-03 11:59:38 UTC

You may get tired of the content of life; but not life.

2017-08-03 11:59:44 UTC

fear of death only goes so far

2017-08-03 11:59:59 UTC

I am tired of the contient right now, but I know that I will make it greater and better in my future.

2017-08-03 12:00:04 UTC

*content

2017-08-03 12:00:15 UTC

Like, dude.

2017-08-03 12:00:29 UTC

we don't know any people who have lived for several hundred years, but given that it's an extremely unnatural way of life for humans, it would likely drive us insane

2017-08-03 12:00:31 UTC

There is so much possibility, it is impossible to get bored.

2017-08-03 12:00:33 UTC

You could take entire years to just travel around the world, retire for a few years, or go back to university, find a new job.

2017-08-03 12:00:56 UTC

You could do almost anything.

2017-08-03 12:01:15 UTC

Because you have all the time; and we'll likely be entering post scarcity or close to that

2017-08-03 12:01:26 UTC

as we'll begin harvesting huge amonts of energies.

2017-08-03 12:01:48 UTC

Like, really. There are no limits!

2017-08-03 12:02:17 UTC

except for increasing existential depression

2017-08-03 12:02:36 UTC

Sorry, what?

2017-08-03 12:02:43 UTC

reasoning such as "I am going to go to a university to get a good job and live a good life and pass on wealth to my kids" no longer works

2017-08-03 12:02:51 UTC

Time is the best cure for existential crisis.

2017-08-03 12:02:52 UTC

fear of death gives our life meaning

2017-08-03 12:02:56 UTC

I would know.

2017-08-03 12:03:12 UTC

Um... We shouldn't fear death when it comes

2017-08-03 12:03:16 UTC

now-a-days that is.

2017-08-03 12:03:24 UTC

Unless we're like, the leader of the Terran Republic

2017-08-03 12:03:44 UTC

We should welcome it. It is the end of a long and beautiful story, but every story must end.

2017-08-03 12:03:50 UTC

Even if it can feel sudden at times.

2017-08-03 12:04:01 UTC

What about the simulation hypothesis? I'm scared this is just a thought in a future AI brain to see how this timeline works out.

2017-08-03 12:04:01 UTC

It just is how it is meant to be.

2017-08-03 12:04:21 UTC

Imagine when you die, you just pull a helmet off

2017-08-03 12:04:28 UTC

and you were in class the entire time

2017-08-03 12:04:35 UTC

wtf

2017-08-03 12:04:39 UTC

not possible

2017-08-03 12:04:45 UTC

and everyone claps because they just saw all the achievments of your fake life

2017-08-03 12:04:46 UTC

we would have precollections

2017-08-03 12:04:58 UTC

for all you know our universe could be simulated on the laptop of some edgy teenager who does this is a hobby

2017-08-03 12:05:01 UTC

We do. It isn't very clear due to conditioning.

2017-08-03 12:05:02 UTC

but does it matter

2017-08-03 12:05:22 UTC

But us humans do actually have connections before our lives.

2017-08-03 12:05:35 UTC

Old souls, you know what I mean?

2017-08-03 12:05:38 UTC

No way. Humans are way to obsessed with themselves. It is never about us. It is just matter in motion. It is charitable to think we are the thoughts of God or a future supercomputer/

2017-08-03 12:05:40 UTC

THey're people you know without knowing.

2017-08-03 12:06:11 UTC

If you want to throw around that we don't, then you just don't get humanity.

2017-08-03 12:06:16 UTC

i find it more likely i will die and be forgotten

2017-08-03 12:06:42 UTC

Reincarnation? With what physics? Your diving off the deep end with that one.

2017-08-03 12:06:51 UTC

I didn't say so.

2017-08-03 12:07:04 UTC

I was saying that we have connections that just don't make sens eif this is all we are.

2017-08-03 12:07:12 UTC

It is conditioned outta us.

2017-08-03 12:07:16 UTC

Okay...

2017-08-03 12:07:27 UTC

"But us humans do actually have connections before our lives."

2017-08-03 12:07:29 UTC

nice theory

2017-08-03 12:07:41 UTC

There are connections is cause and effect.

2017-08-03 12:07:43 UTC

is everyone on here just a bunch of weedsmoking spiritualists?

2017-08-03 12:07:49 UTC

ffs

2017-08-03 12:07:54 UTC

Are you not?

2017-08-03 12:07:55 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/342639721501032448/get_some_help.gif

2017-08-03 12:08:03 UTC

this gif always sums it up

2017-08-03 12:08:04 UTC

Get out you fucking materialist; you're not wlecome here.

2017-08-03 12:08:06 UTC

you shouldn't be so sceptical of things you don't know shit about anyways

2017-08-03 12:08:22 UTC

i'm australian

2017-08-03 12:08:25 UTC

fk off or fit in

2017-08-03 12:08:26 UTC

We have strong patterns imposed on us, and we have strong instincts. It isn't crazy to say we have 'old life' imposed on us.

2017-08-03 12:08:34 UTC

for all you know there could be a lot of supernaturality to our world

2017-08-03 12:08:47 UTC

i believe there is a god

2017-08-03 12:08:51 UTC

or something which created everything

2017-08-03 12:08:58 UTC

because cause and effect

2017-08-03 12:09:05 UTC

although some sort present supernatural shit

2017-08-03 12:09:07 UTC

i don't believe in

2017-08-03 12:09:12 UTC

But you don't seek it?

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