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are there any documents or anything that suggests this

2017-07-26 06:51:24 UTC

I dunno, read one of David Stevenson's books

2017-07-26 06:51:31 UTC

Probably more info in there

is this the only historian that says this

2017-07-26 06:51:38 UTC

Nope

2017-07-26 06:52:04 UTC

Max Hastings talks about this

2017-07-26 06:53:11 UTC

Modern talks about the cause of World War I are often cop-outs because people are pussies and don't want to blame Austria or Germany like they should

2017-07-26 06:53:23 UTC

You could argue Germany was willing to participate in a war against Serbia

2017-07-26 06:53:28 UTC

but not against all of Europe

2017-07-26 06:53:36 UTC

Maybe to an extent Russia as well

2017-07-26 06:53:42 UTC

Yes, Hastings is just as confused about that

2017-07-26 06:53:53 UTC

And that leads to his conception that Germany desired domination.

2017-07-26 06:54:09 UTC

Just because some Austrian guy got shot, all of Europe goes to war?

2017-07-26 06:54:21 UTC

No, Germany played a massive role in making things worse.

2017-07-26 06:54:25 UTC

He doesn't have enough evidence to base it off, if it's just germany said they would austria in any way against serbia

2017-07-26 06:54:36 UTC

Russia choose to help Serbia

2017-07-26 06:54:42 UTC

and France choose to help Russia

2017-07-26 06:54:45 UTC

Yes, that is handing Austria a blank cheque to do whatever.

2017-07-26 06:55:05 UTC

Of course it backfired because Germany lost.

2017-07-26 06:55:15 UTC

France and Britain would've never joined if they didn't want to maintain the geopolitical balance that was there previously

2017-07-26 06:55:25 UTC

If anything their joining was a significant contributor

2017-07-26 06:55:27 UTC

And all of the debt they incurred was the cause of the populist rhetoric that caused Hitler's rise to power.

2017-07-26 06:55:36 UTC

and it was only powered by their geopolitical desires

2017-07-26 06:55:58 UTC

Britain was not involved in the machinations that started the war.

2017-07-26 06:56:03 UTC

France and Russia, yes.

2017-07-26 06:56:05 UTC

Britain, no.

2017-07-26 06:56:10 UTC

No but they were probably likely to join regardless

2017-07-26 06:56:18 UTC

they didn't have to defend Belgium

2017-07-26 06:56:29 UTC

But they willingly went in a dedicated millions

2017-07-26 06:56:30 UTC

You mean they didn't have a pact with Belgium

2017-07-26 06:56:38 UTC

a pact from like 1830

2017-07-26 06:56:40 UTC

But Belgium was an allied country so they defended it.

2017-07-26 06:56:58 UTC

That's just the right thing to do.

2017-07-26 06:57:05 UTC

What Germany did was kinniving and evil

2017-07-26 06:57:11 UTC

What Britain did was righteous.

2017-07-26 06:57:18 UTC

The right thing to do, increase the death toll and size of an already horrific war

2017-07-26 06:57:23 UTC

You're brainwashed

2017-07-26 06:57:25 UTC

>good goys

2017-07-26 06:57:26 UTC

>bad goys

2017-07-26 06:57:29 UTC

To beat back Wilhelm, yes.

2017-07-26 06:57:29 UTC

it's not that simple

2017-07-26 06:57:39 UTC

They're both in the wrong

2017-07-26 06:57:43 UTC

Not at all.

2017-07-26 06:57:57 UTC

Without Britain's intervention, Europe would be speaking German.

2017-07-26 06:58:04 UTC

Again, Germany wanted domination of all of Europe.

2017-07-26 06:58:08 UTC

Very much so, they both had geopolitical interests in the war, which was the predominant reason for their participation

2017-07-26 06:58:11 UTC

Same intention as the Nazis.

2017-07-26 06:58:39 UTC

What, you think after Russia was beaten, Germany would say "welp, that happened", and just stop murdering everyone?

2017-07-26 06:58:57 UTC

They would probably conquer a large swathe of eastern european land

2017-07-26 06:59:00 UTC

Germans didn't want European domination

2017-07-26 06:59:10 UTC

They were going for the whole continent.

2017-07-26 06:59:17 UTC

Adolf only wanted back the land Germany had pre WW1

2017-07-26 06:59:27 UTC

The movements of their military prove they wanted the whole continent.

2017-07-26 06:59:34 UTC

Like west Prussia

2017-07-26 06:59:43 UTC

Nazi Germany wanted America speaking German.

2017-07-26 06:59:44 UTC

Hitler didn't even want war, lol.

2017-07-26 06:59:48 UTC

Bullshit.

2017-07-26 06:59:51 UTC

Hahhahaha

2017-07-26 06:59:54 UTC

Not bullshit hahaha

2017-07-26 07:00:05 UTC

You guys have a bunch of weird pseudohistorical ideas

2017-07-26 07:00:13 UTC

It's like history isn't actually real things that happened to you guys

2017-07-26 07:00:18 UTC

Revisionism, right?

2017-07-26 07:00:21 UTC

It's like you only look at it from one side

2017-07-26 07:00:30 UTC

There is only one side. The side that wins.

2017-07-26 07:00:38 UTC

I think he did want war, but only against the Soviet Union

2017-07-26 07:00:40 UTC

this here is a nazi site but it's good infomration here: https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html

2017-07-26 07:00:47 UTC
2017-07-26 07:01:12 UTC

"Peace offer"

2017-07-26 07:01:29 UTC

"Everybody do what I want you to do, or I'll kill you, but if you do what I want you to do, we can have peace โค "

2017-07-26 07:01:42 UTC

Isn't that exactly what we said?

2017-07-26 07:01:48 UTC

After Hitler said it.

2017-07-26 07:02:01 UTC

Peace with other countries @MrSally

2017-07-26 07:02:03 UTC

i hate niggers

2017-07-26 07:02:05 UTC

not with jews, lol

2017-07-26 07:02:07 UTC

and jews

2017-07-26 07:02:07 UTC

He said he's taking back his rightful land no matter what but if they stay outta his way then they can keep theirs. Quite respectful no?

2017-07-26 07:02:13 UTC

Retaliation for the invasion of Poland and France is pretty much justified.

2017-07-26 07:02:29 UTC

Poland is one of the last white ethnostates we have left

2017-07-26 07:02:34 UTC

long live Poland

2017-07-26 07:02:34 UTC

Lol

2017-07-26 07:02:43 UTC

Enjoy becoming a plurality son.

not that im complaining or anything

2017-07-26 07:02:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/339663835323432960/autism_intensifies.gif

but what is the logic in britain

2017-07-26 07:02:53 UTC

@MrSally except he only invaded France to reclaim the Rheinlands stolen after WW1 and only invaded Poland to regain west Prussia

2017-07-26 07:02:54 UTC

Is all of Europe white, or do you think some southern parts of it isn't? what's your opinions?

and their pact with poland

they said if germany invades they will declare war to protect poland

2017-07-26 07:03:04 UTC

Absolute bullshit, GenZ.

2017-07-26 07:03:11 UTC

I mean it sounds nice

but they didnt give a shit when glorious stalin invaded

so uh

2017-07-26 07:03:18 UTC

@MrSally it's not

uhhhhhhh

opk

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