If he did not actually name Gaddafi as an imperialist, I would advise you to check your argument a little bit to make sure you aren't projecting again.

They were only able to do so in 2011 because we had reached a point to where the population had become complacent with regards to the idea of perpetual warfare

Remain on point in your dialectic.

I'm pretty sure Gaddafi was always "asking for it".

@Revolutionary Nationalist said that he was always fighting imperialism, my response that the moment he did (in not being useful) he was killed. I made the point that if he had been a good Communist, he would have his whole life to defend against Capitalist assassination. But in reality, he never had to defend against it, because he was not targeted. I am finished with this.

Was he ever not an insane war criminal?

Communism isn't the only enemy to Liberalism

It's silly to believe so

Liberalism also killed fascism

They've also killed many other dictators who weren't communist

not to mention, you don't have to be a communist to be a socialist

Hmmm.

Honestly, I think you are confusing liberal and neoconservative.

Neoconservative is a subset of liberal

At least in the context of today.

In 2011 as well

No, it is vastly different from liberalism.

*Vastly*.

No it's not

Liberalism refers to the capitalist economic system, neoliberalism is the evolution of that. Neocons are essentially the right wing of the neoliberal establishment. That's why our only choices are neocons and neolibs

It's essentially liberalism on a global scale

Not really?

Liberal doesn't refer to capitalism specifically. Civil liberties are more important.

The Obama administration wasn't much different than the Bush administration when you look at actual policy

Civil Liberties are a spook

Stirner was a crazy fool.

They're still an illusion. The fact is, additional civil liberties are only a band aid to appease the working class to their economic oppression

Liberal nonsense

Even when you vote you're engaging in violence

Spooks are the super-ego telling the ego that something might be a good idea.

Doesn't matter, the fact is civil liberties are technically privileges, they can be easily taken away by whomever has the most guns (or force) in this case the government

Stirner died the year Freud was born. People didn't know this stuff and Stirner was not trained in psychoanalysis, so his answer for moral convictions was "spooks".

Individualism is willing slavery.

Liberty is not given, it is self-evident.

You do not grant a person their personhood.

Neither does society.

It exists with them, and that is sacred.

That's why tankies are sick fucking bastards who should be locked up for being dangerous sociopaths.

My point is still vaild with regards to "rights" being privileges. They're based on a so called "divine right". God does not exist. Not to mention it doesn't matter if they're "self evident" if no government is willing to grant them. "rights" have to be earned. They are not given.

Tankies are the most authentic in the Heideggerian sense. Anarchists lie about creating a stateless society, meanwhile they built gulags under the CNT-FAI.

At least Tankies are honest about their intentions.

Honor in ripping peoples' lives away is probably one of the scummiest and most degenerate ideas of honor I have ever heard.

How am I "ripping peoples' lives away"? I'm protecting the revolution from demagogues who want to hijack democracy to advance their own narcissistic interests.

Yeah except none of that actually happened and the people running it were just as narcissistic.

I'm literally protecting the revolution.

I guess you're happy with your 1 year of "real socialism" kek

Stalin protected the revolution from reactionaries yet the CNT got easily crushed by the meager armies of Spain

Who did Stalin have to protect his shit from? Emaciated peasants?

National Capitalists calling themselves national socialists

i.e. Nazis

I'm also happy Trotsky got the Pick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpP7Jv-0jNU

I'm talking about after World War II. The Nazis just wanted to dominate the whole world. Stalin was an asshole afterwards too.

Asshole =/= not a socialist

Also a fucktard with a tenuous grasp on theory.

A great man who defended socialism and built soviet industry

If it wasn't for scumbags like Khrushchev we might have socialism today

Never happened.

Pure ideology.

Pure memes

Where is the Zizek emote

Oh yeah, remember Stalin's creepy Lenin death cult

counter revolutionaries go to the gulag

Remember how Lenin's perfectly preserved body is still viewable today because of Stalin's creepy death cult?

It's really fucking creepy, you know?

It's a memorial

Death cult? Don't you mean the most practical and effective expression of Marxist theory?

It's wholly against materialism.

^

It's just an opiate.

It's called socialist patriotism

The most practical and effective expression of Marxist theory is a public reading of the Communist Manifesto.

Patriotism is not Marxist.

I know. But Socialism in One Country is Marxist

No it absolutely is not.

That is literally Stalinist only

Wew. Let's dance Kulak.

Marxism is necessarily global.

Lenin literally said he was a nationalist as it promoted socialist patriotism

Trot scum

Socialist patriotism is hot air.

Once again the day he got the pic was the best day of my life

Even before I was born

I agree that Marxism is global, and only a strong socialist state can secure and protect the successes of the working class.

^

Russia, uneducated peasants with no infrastructure, was not the place to start it.

It was the perfect place.

>workers are uneducated peasants

Lenin and Stalin were both uneducated peasants.

You're sounding like a liberal comrade :^)

The weakest link in the Capitalist grasp.

Most people are uneducated peasants. Sad but true.

Also it probably would have happened in America if Russia hadn't made it look so bad.

Emaciated peasants on dirt farms are not going to convince Americans that communism is the way to go.

Then again for a time we had that very issue.

It's going to be a few more decades before that's far enough back for Americans to think about it.

Everyone forgets the Dust Bowl

We're going to need another.

I'm not sure who is merchanting who anymore.