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2017-07-18 22:45:16 UTC
2017-07-18 22:45:23 UTC

I'll tell you the secret of Communism

2017-07-18 22:45:25 UTC

Good to know

2017-07-18 22:45:34 UTC

who said anybody would kill the people of a certain intelligence level

2017-07-18 22:45:34 UTC

It works perfectly if everyone thinks like you

2017-07-18 22:45:44 UTC

That's the only message anyone of u have answered too of 4 messages

2017-07-18 22:45:46 UTC

nice s t r a w m a n g

2017-07-18 22:46:09 UTC

***I A M R E T A R D E D***

2017-07-18 22:46:11 UTC

Equal ability isn't really possible

2017-07-18 22:46:26 UTC

@Horse Shmeat So you admit that equality is a false god?

2017-07-18 22:46:32 UTC

Ummmm, no

2017-07-18 22:46:40 UTC

I just realize that equal ability is impossible and retarded

2017-07-18 22:46:51 UTC

Equal rights exist

2017-07-18 22:46:57 UTC

but equal abilities are literally dystopian

2017-07-18 22:49:02 UTC

Then how can universal equality be achieved if equal abilities cannot?

2017-07-18 22:49:16 UTC

Because there are many different types of equality

2017-07-18 22:49:43 UTC

equal power and equal survival are ancom equalities

2017-07-18 22:49:54 UTC

but equal abilities are authoritarian

2017-07-18 22:50:03 UTC

because not everybody is physically equal

2017-07-18 22:50:10 UTC

and it's imposible to change that

2017-07-18 22:50:34 UTC

And equal power? How do you even plan to achieve that?

2017-07-18 22:50:40 UTC

that's why people who can produce more provide for those who can't

2017-07-18 22:50:42 UTC

Destroying all civilization?

2017-07-18 22:50:54 UTC

Through horizontal organization and decision making

2017-07-18 22:51:18 UTC

Anarchism is very organized as an ideology

2017-07-18 22:51:30 UTC

and is constructed with the point being to equalize power

2017-07-18 22:51:37 UTC

without representatives and third parties

2017-07-18 22:51:55 UTC

Yet, isn't that proof in itself that anarchism cannot be achieved because you require organization to function?

2017-07-18 22:52:05 UTC

>decision making
>anarchy

2017-07-18 22:52:07 UTC

anarchism isn't anti organization

2017-07-18 22:52:14 UTC

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

2017-07-18 22:52:15 UTC

>organization
>not a state

2017-07-18 22:52:17 UTC

it's anti unjustified hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:52:26 UTC

Oh okay so it's not anarchy then

2017-07-18 22:52:35 UTC

If there's a "just" hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:52:35 UTC

you're right

2017-07-18 22:52:41 UTC

because anarchy isn't anarchism

2017-07-18 22:52:51 UTC

isms

2017-07-18 22:52:52 UTC

some hierarchies are justified

2017-07-18 22:52:56 UTC

And who determines which hierachy is "just"?

2017-07-18 22:53:03 UTC

but anarchists view the state and capitalism to be unjust hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:53:04 UTC

The Gangster God Computer

2017-07-18 22:53:16 UTC

Some Anarcho-communists are into organization.

2017-07-18 22:53:33 UTC

It's contradictory honestly

2017-07-18 22:53:42 UTC

The only ancom models I've heard from ancoms are republics

2017-07-18 22:53:55 UTC

They just call it an 'organization' instead of a state

2017-07-18 22:53:59 UTC

Oligarchic republics usually

2017-07-18 22:54:01 UTC

Because the wikipedia definition of anarchy isn't related to the actual political philosophy

2017-07-18 22:54:02 UTC

But this guys are very rare.

2017-07-18 22:54:03 UTC

One was a monarchist

2017-07-18 22:54:14 UTC

it's not opposed to all hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:54:18 UTC

just unjustified hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:54:38 UTC

in which there is a subjugator and subjugated relationship and institutions in which one group exploits another

2017-07-18 22:54:47 UTC

>When Anarchy isn't anarchism making the entire movement an oxymoron

2017-07-18 22:54:50 UTC

pushing someone out of the road to save their life is justified

2017-07-18 22:55:00 UTC

because anarchism is the name for the ideology

2017-07-18 22:55:10 UTC

and has nothing to do with anarchy in the encyclopedia

2017-07-18 22:55:16 UTC

An-without
archy - rule

2017-07-18 22:55:24 UTC

You need a different title

2017-07-18 22:55:29 UTC

anarchism- abolition of unjustified hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:55:35 UTC

well, proudhon named it anarchism so

2017-07-18 22:55:38 UTC

idk what to do then

2017-07-18 22:55:54 UTC

call it anunjustifiedhierarchyism?

2017-07-18 22:56:24 UTC

we need to kill all the disabled and the non-whites, we should also kill the stupid then we can all have the same opportunity

2017-07-18 22:56:33 UTC

or

2017-07-18 22:56:36 UTC

how about this

2017-07-18 22:56:42 UTC

Discontentism

2017-07-18 22:56:43 UTC

?

2017-07-18 22:56:56 UTC

realize people are physically inequal and organize production into a need based system?

2017-07-18 22:57:03 UTC

so people who are disabled don't die

2017-07-18 22:57:23 UTC

that's the whole point of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need"

2017-07-18 22:57:37 UTC

not "everyone must be equally abled"

2017-07-18 22:57:54 UTC

You no work... GULAG

2017-07-18 22:58:01 UTC

ummm

2017-07-18 22:58:04 UTC

you no work

2017-07-18 22:58:09 UTC

no labor vouchers

2017-07-18 22:58:24 UTC

>labor vouchers

2017-07-18 22:58:30 UTC

Nice fiat currency capitalist

2017-07-18 22:58:33 UTC

:^)

2017-07-18 22:58:34 UTC

Sounds like currency to me.

2017-07-18 22:58:36 UTC

used for commodities

2017-07-18 22:58:41 UTC

CURRENCY

2017-07-18 22:58:45 UTC

The tokens are fiat no matter what

2017-07-18 22:58:48 UTC

It's not money

2017-07-18 22:58:52 UTC

mind if I explain real quick

2017-07-18 22:58:59 UTC

@Horse Shmeat >It's not money if I say so!

2017-07-18 22:59:08 UTC

Currency is money

2017-07-18 22:59:12 UTC

Money is currency.

2017-07-18 22:59:42 UTC

Labor vouchers are not currency because there is no accumulation. When you go to a store and gib labor vouchers, the store does not keep them. There is no excess accumulation. You can't sell shit to get more vouchers, nobody can get rich off of labor vouchers

2017-07-18 22:59:44 UTC

Currency is something you trade for commodities. Vouchers are fiat traded for commodities

2017-07-18 22:59:56 UTC

There is n o accumulation

2017-07-18 23:00:02 UTC

@Horse Shmeat So you get the money in return/

2017-07-18 23:00:08 UTC

for working

2017-07-18 23:00:13 UTC

There's still trade, they represent worth in exchange for commodites

2017-07-18 23:00:20 UTC

Kind of like how a cashier will give you the excess money back?

2017-07-18 23:00:26 UTC

Don't need the stores to trade them for it to be a currency

2017-07-18 23:00:36 UTC

It is still currency even if you say there is no accumulation.

2017-07-18 23:00:37 UTC

you're not trading anything

2017-07-18 23:00:42 UTC

with the worker

2017-07-18 23:00:47 UTC

nobody accumulates money

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