Message from @Horse Shmeat

Discord ID: 337003751800045570


2017-07-18 22:49:16 UTC  

Because there are many different types of equality

2017-07-18 22:49:43 UTC  

equal power and equal survival are ancom equalities

2017-07-18 22:49:54 UTC  

but equal abilities are authoritarian

2017-07-18 22:50:03 UTC  

because not everybody is physically equal

2017-07-18 22:50:10 UTC  

and it's imposible to change that

2017-07-18 22:50:34 UTC  

And equal power? How do you even plan to achieve that?

2017-07-18 22:50:40 UTC  

that's why people who can produce more provide for those who can't

2017-07-18 22:50:42 UTC  

Destroying all civilization?

2017-07-18 22:50:54 UTC  

Through horizontal organization and decision making

2017-07-18 22:51:18 UTC  

Anarchism is very organized as an ideology

2017-07-18 22:51:30 UTC  

and is constructed with the point being to equalize power

2017-07-18 22:51:37 UTC  

without representatives and third parties

2017-07-18 22:51:55 UTC  

Yet, isn't that proof in itself that anarchism cannot be achieved because you require organization to function?

2017-07-18 22:52:05 UTC  

>decision making
>anarchy

2017-07-18 22:52:07 UTC  

anarchism isn't anti organization

2017-07-18 22:52:14 UTC  

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

2017-07-18 22:52:15 UTC  

>organization
>not a state

2017-07-18 22:52:17 UTC  

it's anti unjustified hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:52:26 UTC  

Oh okay so it's not anarchy then

2017-07-18 22:52:35 UTC  

If there's a "just" hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:52:35 UTC  

you're right

2017-07-18 22:52:41 UTC  

because anarchy isn't anarchism

2017-07-18 22:52:51 UTC  

isms

2017-07-18 22:52:52 UTC  

some hierarchies are justified

2017-07-18 22:52:56 UTC  

And who determines which hierachy is "just"?

2017-07-18 22:53:03 UTC  

but anarchists view the state and capitalism to be unjust hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:53:04 UTC  

The Gangster God Computer

2017-07-18 22:53:16 UTC  

Some Anarcho-communists are into organization.

2017-07-18 22:53:33 UTC  

It's contradictory honestly

2017-07-18 22:53:42 UTC  

The only ancom models I've heard from ancoms are republics

2017-07-18 22:53:55 UTC  

They just call it an 'organization' instead of a state

2017-07-18 22:53:59 UTC  

Oligarchic republics usually

2017-07-18 22:54:01 UTC  

Because the wikipedia definition of anarchy isn't related to the actual political philosophy

2017-07-18 22:54:02 UTC  

But this guys are very rare.

2017-07-18 22:54:03 UTC  

One was a monarchist

2017-07-18 22:54:14 UTC  

it's not opposed to all hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:54:18 UTC  

just unjustified hierarchy

2017-07-18 22:54:38 UTC  

in which there is a subjugator and subjugated relationship and institutions in which one group exploits another

2017-07-18 22:54:47 UTC  

>When Anarchy isn't anarchism making the entire movement an oxymoron

2017-07-18 22:54:50 UTC  

pushing someone out of the road to save their life is justified

2017-07-18 22:55:00 UTC  

because anarchism is the name for the ideology