I also wish the Wobblies would come back.

And the De Leonists.

Progress is not necessarily by our own hand, if the subject of progress changes. Everything changes. And by our hand or others, the forces that move the universe from simpler things to more complicated things will always transform and develop.

I feel like your egoism is poisoning your objectivity.

Really? I think it's pretty rational egoism.

Would it be fair to assert then that what needs to be a foundation then for progressive policies is that which may move slower then other traditional issues? If the world makes exponential progress in tech that changes our relationship with the world then being 'progressive' on one issue one day will make it irrelevant the next.

I don't think so, I think we'll be able to keep up with it. We have been so far.

@AaronMk Yes! This was and still is hard for me to accept.

Egoism is never rational.

Not in the materialist sense.

Nothing wrong with being a little Chernyshevskian.

Rational egoism is literally exactly materialistic and socialistic.

Ego implies that the individual is primary.

Why is the ego necessary?

Do you enjoy being yourself?

@MrSally Yesterday - historically speaking as a metaphor - surveillance wasn't so much an issue since it was so resource heavy and complicated. You could move politics on it faster than it could move. But now the expanding limits on technology means it can keep or outpace technology, making the NSA more and more out of proportion with the Democratic powers supposedly controlling it.

I get that the subjective is a reflection of the material, and we are limited to our abilities as humans, but still I know that there is a better world just outside my reach, and my ego betrays me at every turn.

I don't think that's true.

The technical growth in manufacture is also limiting the input of man in manufacture, so a firm could simply pay a little more if the workers go back to sleep and still keep their profit.

If time is linear and moving forward, it behests us all to prepare and have strong theories about where we are headed. This implies and temporal restraint on what the ego tells us as true.

@AaronMk I'm not sure I understand your phrasing here.

@MrSally I'm on a phone so it's difficult.

That's alright.

I just have to read it a couple of times.

I'm technically on break at work so I can't get too invested either.

Mmmm

Also, don't forget the ego is not the entire subconscious. There is id and super-ego.

I do want to add that in relevance to this discussion talk of a UBI may cut off any honest revolutionary potential if the regular people get what many would consider peak Socialism: money for simply existing. Did if Zucker gets into the White House on this promise - as I heard it theorized - how do you out progressive something that'd be peak progressivism for this generation.

And now to go finish up the night.

Mmk, see ya.

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@Deleted User My friend!

My ally

@MrSally When I was talking about Ego, I was referring to individualism, not Freud.

Well the egoists kind of did their philosophy before Freud.

There was more to it than what they thought.

This is why Stirner was wrong.

Stirner actually died the year Freud was born.

When I talk about ego, I am only talking about the human psyche, not 'rational self-interest' which is never rational.

Ayn Rand was a sad, abused person who deserved a better life and probably would have been a better philosopher had she experienced more happiness.

"Rational self-interest" means someone else's worst interest could be your best. This is, of course, one of the slimiest philosophies in the history of philosophy.

It is also the cause of the modern divided politics and views on the economy in America.

One side says the philosophy of rational self-interest is slimy, the other says it is rational. Scientifically speaking, data supports the slimy view because a couple of people profit and thousands are screwed.

So there's my little digression on why I am an egoist to some level. I'm not *that kind* of egoist.

Anyways, I've gotta go to bed now. Good talking to you all, goodnight.

In my particular experience and reading, most people tend to want to help.

Gee I love waiting to finish my shit and the one piece of epuipment I need is in use.

Squat rack is overrated.

Can I get my cherry picker now?

At least this is like a third break. Just lean up against something and wait for when I need to help with a water heater.

hi..

@Deleted User Hi

any atheist here?

No

@Deleted User There are plenty.

Almost all.

One day when programmers die, they will be reincarnated into a software intelligence. Then, they will be put in a box and destoyed. Stupid programmers, only they deserve to be reincarnated to relive the idiocy of their actions. AI is the final walk of mankind to the deep pit of hell.

@Deleted User Wait, what?

Spoiler: Humanity dies in the end.

>script shitty websites with PHP for a living
>am doomed for eternity for something comletely unrelated

It doesn't matter. Any contribution you make on the internet in code form will be remembers by the future superintelligence. And it will use this information to reincarnate you and make you accountable for your crimes.

Producing anything is a crime tbh

According to the future, it is. Because you were to technological clergy of this time, and you chose those wrong pathway. You are the heretic because you did not move towards the future AI God.

@Deleted User Well I'm fucked

I know, enjoy punishment and fire. I am too stupid and will never be reborn. Intelligence is a curse.

btw, never go to Thailand

How do I roast christians?

impossible

Why?

the christians will be doing the roasting if you catch my drift

No. Christians know the best how to have a BBQ. BYO, witches and heretics provided.

they all burn the same

Mashmellow cannot discriminate fuel.

BadMouse Productions just sent me a death threat...

The comment has been deleted now... SHOCKER!

Lad the fix is quick and simle, you just need to stop being a nazi. if you did that then all your problems would vanish

imajun my surprise

he was by far the weakest in that sargon debate thingy

IMAGINE

MY

SHOCk

How do I stop being a nazi when I'm not one to begin with?

I'm already an individualist, but whatever.

rip

nigga got b&

tbh you stop being a nazi when I lie and scheme you off of the face of the internet

watch out fash

you are going to be

B A SH E D

nothing personnel

*doxxes you*

calling people Nazis is so blasé

Menzies ur a nazi

#MakePinkoAnInsultAgain

i'm not a Nazi

yeah u r

prove it

communism is the bset, most ethical, and most righteous economic system ever conceived