Or whatever.

But that's just my crazy philosophy.

Left wing is too poor for robots

Forgive me, I am very inspired by Slavoj Zizek so when I talk about communism I bring up crazy scenarios.

Rich will have better robots.

Naaaah

Science is pretty working-class.

The scientists who design a self-improving AI are leftists, undoubtedly, and the self-improving AI would most certainly understand programming that requires that it only follow scientific data.

Zizek has interesting ideas about the future of AI, bio engineering and global government.

Yes, he's a lovely man, and I would love to go to gulag under his bearded Slovenian fist.

I wouldn't underestimate the future of bourgeois ideology over scientists. It is already happening now in the control of grants. I personally know of very talented scientists who left their fields because of this situation.

Everybody says the things he says don't make sense, but I have never had trouble understanding him.

Scientists, who are left, are now motivated by economics.

Yes, but the second the lead comes out that someone is really getting on top of developing a self-improving AI and this time they really know what they are doing, there will be a group of scientists, leftists I believe, who will jump at the opportunity and ensure that the AI only follows reality-based scientifc data.

I think that is all it takes for an AI to understand that left is right and right is anti-science.

how will the right ever recover?

"The leftists programmed the robot with false science"

@MrSally I support this statements completely.

I mean, isn't what it all boils down to? We now have real-world data showing success in economies that move toward communism no matter how slowly (and yes, I use social democracy as a steppingstone for communism in this idea) so the AI would probably follow that. There is no data supporting the right's ideas on lowering taxes and allowing major corporations to do shady things with money, so it would have to avoid those ideas.

Dialectical-Materialist AI when?

I know, that would be really nice.

In fact, I'm getting this idea about really-redpilling Cleverbot or something. That'd be a sick prank.

@everyone on here should get on Cleverbot or Existor and chat with it about leftist ideology.

@MrSally I am more skeptical. If capital funds AI they will do everything they can to make sure that their ideology is absolute. I agree with the overall prediction towards leftism in the future, but not without nightmarish struggles to get there.

On which programming language and how long you think to do research before making cleverbot?

Yes, it's true.

Though we'll probably be gone before the struggles, having the framework for people to actually fight them would be nice.

I mean, if Kurzweil's right, we might not be gone.

I approve of frameworks. We can work hard now to prepare concrete theories for the inevitable struggles ahead.

In fact, if Kurzweil's right we might be immortal by then.

He will die. Transhumanism survives on investments. They are 90% marketing.

Yeah, but I still hold a special place in my heart for it.

It's my own little opiate.

I fear humanity's end, you are too optimistic for its demise. We are opposite but both irrational.

It will be somewhere in the middle.

Nah, I just like the idea of being a cyborg forever and seeing the world change.

Transhumanism is a little overly religious.

That's what we spoke about earlier. Humanity's ego means nothing. Not even stars deserve to survive the future.

I'm just a humanist who clings to material things because it's literally all we have.

I think you just want to live forever, with all the pleasures that it brings.

Indisputably.

Boring.

When I say "cling to material things", I mean my dick.

(not really)

Isn't boring to live forever?

Naaaah.

Not for autists.

I don't see anything boring about it.

I'm an acid head. The world is a beautiful place and I enjoy viewing it, and I would enjoy doing so forever.

@MrSally If you understand how things works it becomes boring because things repeat themselves. It is always the same thing and always will be.

Thank god I'd still be able to kill myself, but I doubt I ever would.

That's just not an idea that passes through my head when I think about the idea of eternal life.

After 30 the excitement of life passes many.

Not gonna happen for me, no way.

I've been through too much shit to even let a second pass me by without finding something to value.

What gonna happen after 1000 years?

Some cool shit, I guarantee you.

Same

No idea, but it's gonna be cool.

You not gonna be "cool" anymore.

You will change

I've never been cool so that's not a problem.

Everything change

I've always been an outsider.

I think I would like to empirically prove that history runs in cycles because morons forget shit.

https://youtu.be/8DDHulO485k

The promise of technology is your best possible time in your life and more. Because your vigour and interest in life is only chemicals, and they can be modified so that your best memories are enhanced. There would, in cyborgs, be a feedback loop of pleasure, where the object of pleasure is enhanced, as well as the ability to experience it. It would be a hedonistic market with pleasure based economics.

This song just makes me think about how we have major societal systems in place today based on people from millennia ago being scared of where the sun went at night and worried that it was because god was mad at them.

Maybe it's the "alleluiah" part.

😅

Nothing wrong with hedonism in post-scarcity land

That's the whole point.

I'm not so sure.

Yeah, there's the risk of degeneracy or whatever, but at that point I wouldn't worry at all.

I mean, yeah I'll be hooked into an endless techno-dopamine inter-circuit injection so I won't worry about anything ever

But I don't think actual criminals would be a problem when a self-improving AI has improved things to that point.

Utopians are the only good people

You will be a quivering mass of 10,000 genitals, injecting super nerve enhancing drugs, plugged into a supercomputer with optimised pleasure software. It is not progress at all.

You r gey

Fuck utopia.

Have to slave my wage guys tomorrow. Goodnight.

nighty

Nighty night

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But I would think that would be the entire end point of a species, when they reach that point and never have to do anything ever again because "improvement" could never actually come.

"Always room for improvement" is technically not true. Everything has a limit.

I'd think the only improvements would be cosmetic, to better appeal to the sensibilities because aesthetic value will have taken a much higher position on peoples' minds.

and so our supercomputer world would change appearance every decade as styles that originate in human minds change.

sleep tight comrade

>everything has a limit
>there must be an end point
Those are the words of drug addict

<:porky:315615014751043588> did someone say drug addict?

*why progress guys, progress has it's limits*

Progress does have a limit though. The idea that we are limitless is another religious thing.

But as long as progress can be made, I embrace it.

It's almost like we're

wait, let me think of a word

progress.... hmmmmmm

progressives!

I am a rather progressive person, yes sir.

I would love for America to form a progressive coalition centered around a few core populistic left wing policies out of its wide array of leftist parties that can't agree on everything, but do agree on a few very important things.