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2017-05-18 21:31:51 UTC

the bourgeoisie is inside the fascist and nazi states

2017-05-18 21:31:52 UTC

Bourgeois are the industrialists. Is not the idea to make the proles the bourgeois thus creating a dictatorship of the proletariat?

2017-05-18 21:31:59 UTC

>fascism = capitalism

2017-05-18 21:32:02 UTC

@Deleted User It is ok for left-wing to do anything. Because we are on the right side.

2017-05-18 21:32:04 UTC

Ford, Hugo Boss, etc. all capitalist

2017-05-18 21:32:28 UTC

Ford wasn't a German

2017-05-18 21:32:31 UTC

fascism is the most reactionary tendency of capitalism

2017-05-18 21:32:40 UTC

>fascism is reactionary capitalism

2017-05-18 21:32:44 UTC

You have no idea what you speak

2017-05-18 21:32:51 UTC

You have been fooled and deluded by liars

2017-05-18 21:32:52 UTC

I know

2017-05-18 21:33:16 UTC

You have capitalist enterprises and you have conservative views the hte extreme

2017-05-18 21:33:31 UTC

>conservative views

2017-05-18 21:33:35 UTC

yes

2017-05-18 21:33:44 UTC

I am surprised you didn't call me a neo-liberal

2017-05-18 21:34:28 UTC

Fascists have capitalist economies

2017-05-18 21:34:36 UTC

Honestly though, fascism is a concept that has nothing to do with economics and politics in their common forms

2017-05-18 21:34:48 UTC

Fascism could actually be compared to Marx's philosophies honestly

2017-05-18 21:34:50 UTC

it does

2017-05-18 21:34:54 UTC

it rejects class struggle

2017-05-18 21:34:58 UTC

It does not

2017-05-18 21:35:02 UTC

therefore they're against the liberation of the workers

2017-05-18 21:35:11 UTC

go read the doctrine of fascism

2017-05-18 21:35:14 UTC

Fascism embraces class struggle as natural and individual struggle

2017-05-18 21:35:22 UTC

Rather than the collective

2017-05-18 21:35:40 UTC

so it distorts the word to something that doesn't exist

2017-05-18 21:35:45 UTC

>doctrine of fascism
You sound like you haven't read it

2017-05-18 21:35:57 UTC

that is social darwinism

2017-05-18 21:36:10 UTC

"individual struggle" under capitalism?

2017-05-18 21:36:13 UTC

XD

2017-05-18 21:36:38 UTC

you all praise market distortion and the bourgeoisie

2017-05-18 21:36:39 UTC

fakers

2017-05-18 21:36:48 UTC

>you all

2017-05-18 21:36:54 UTC

You act like you even know what I am

2017-05-18 21:36:58 UTC

class struggle can only be repressed by force, by the state

2017-05-18 21:37:01 UTC

Like I said, you have been deluded

2017-05-18 21:37:09 UTC

you're a fascist

2017-05-18 21:37:27 UTC

That is not true. The defense of a subject does not mean one is of that he is defending.

2017-05-18 21:37:28 UTC

go read more about your economy and your doctrine

2017-05-18 21:37:35 UTC

>your economy and your doctrine

2017-05-18 21:37:36 UTC

Deluded

2017-05-18 21:38:20 UTC

I do not believe in the same natural conflicts and necessities that true-fascists do, I am not one of theirs

2017-05-18 21:38:34 UTC

This does not mean I will let the lack of knowledge of the subject go unanswered

2017-05-18 21:39:01 UTC

I don't care how unreasonable you are I want you to understand what I know

2017-05-18 21:39:49 UTC

what do you believe then?

2017-05-18 21:39:58 UTC

linking mein kampf as socialist

2017-05-18 21:40:00 UTC

Socialism :^)

2017-05-18 21:40:11 UTC

Do you really think Hitler is not a socialist?

2017-05-18 21:40:15 UTC

my gott pure ideology

2017-05-18 21:40:28 UTC

Read the book I posted on you

2017-05-18 21:40:39 UTC

It deals about the nazi economy

2017-05-18 21:40:49 UTC

They're just capitalists, the bourgeoisie is in there

2017-05-18 21:41:10 UTC

Because some fool on a forum board attempted to convince you that his dealings with people unlike himself mean he's like them?

2017-05-18 21:41:37 UTC

>the bourgeois is in there

2017-05-18 21:41:41 UTC

No, because his economy is capitalist period

2017-05-18 21:41:50 UTC

you can't be for the workers that way

2017-05-18 21:42:17 UTC

Do you believe that eliminating an aristocracy and reforming it under different people means it is destroyed?

2017-05-18 21:42:37 UTC

>hitler wasn't for the workers
>NSDAP Germany wasn't for the workers

2017-05-18 21:43:03 UTC

hitler specially in the NSDAP wasn't for the workers, removing the strasserists for example

2017-05-18 21:43:28 UTC

Are you anti-Semitic?

2017-05-18 21:43:34 UTC

no

2017-05-18 21:43:40 UTC

Then why do you support Strasser?

2017-05-18 21:43:46 UTC

I don't

2017-05-18 21:43:56 UTC

I say that they eliminated the ""left-wing"" of the party

2017-05-18 21:44:04 UTC

The brownshirts were those who trashed Jewish businesses and properties and assaulted Jews

2017-05-18 21:44:24 UTC

Ah, that conspiracy

2017-05-18 21:44:34 UTC

>THAT conspiracy

2017-05-18 21:44:40 UTC

You think the riots didn't happen?

2017-05-18 21:44:52 UTC

It comes from the ignorance of Europe, the catholics couldn't lend money but the jews could do it

2017-05-18 21:44:55 UTC

so let's hate the jew

2017-05-18 21:44:56 UTC

The brownshirts are a figment of historians' imaginations?

2017-05-18 21:45:05 UTC

mussolini had jews in his cabinet

2017-05-18 21:45:11 UTC

So did Hitler

2017-05-18 21:45:12 UTC

but even banning lending isn't enough, you have to expropriate all the capitalists

2017-05-18 21:45:17 UTC

or a new elite, jew or not emerges again

2017-05-18 21:45:39 UTC

So does this mean that the NSDAP or Italians blindly hated people for their origins?

2017-05-18 21:45:44 UTC

religion or genetics doesn't determine social class

2017-05-18 21:46:13 UTC

Nepotism does, hence the disproportion of Jewish wealth that we see even today

2017-05-18 21:46:17 UTC

From far antiquity

2017-05-18 21:46:24 UTC

Certain families passed wealth down

2017-05-18 21:46:49 UTC

Some had become the bourgeois of modern day you so despise

2017-05-18 21:46:56 UTC

that's just a part of the problem

2017-05-18 21:47:05 UTC

you're not going to the root of the problem eliminating jews

2017-05-18 21:47:10 UTC

I despise as well, not for Jewish blood but for a lack of virtue

2017-05-18 21:47:24 UTC

Oh, THAT conspiracy again

2017-05-18 21:47:28 UTC

>eliminating Jews

2017-05-18 21:47:35 UTC

yes, or the big capitalists

2017-05-18 21:47:45 UTC

if you let the little bourgeois, they'll become the new big ones

2017-05-18 21:48:30 UTC

If you eliminate both, then who fills the gap?

2017-05-18 21:48:39 UTC

the workers

2017-05-18 21:48:43 UTC

all for the workers

2017-05-18 21:48:48 UTC

If an ASSEMBLY eliminates them, who fills the gap?

2017-05-18 21:48:59 UTC

Does the mob have a leader?

2017-05-18 21:49:16 UTC

they can have delegates or party

2017-05-18 21:49:23 UTC

Was Lenin on the front line during the skirmishes between the reds and the whites?

2017-05-18 21:49:50 UTC

yes but the history is done by the masses

2017-05-18 21:50:04 UTC

there wasn't only a voice too

2017-05-18 21:50:06 UTC

History is done by those who write, and write do the aristocrats. We then come full circle

2017-05-18 21:50:25 UTC

no, the masses do the actions; we're materialists

2017-05-18 21:50:48 UTC

and I said, all for the workers

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