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2018-03-14 20:04:00 UTC

Go to prison

2018-03-14 20:04:07 UTC

You don't have to work there

2018-03-14 20:04:11 UTC

Yea you do

2018-03-14 20:04:15 UTC

No you dont

2018-03-14 20:04:29 UTC

In the ussr you do

2018-03-14 20:04:36 UTC

Tell that to the large population of people working to commute their sentences

2018-03-14 20:04:45 UTC

"You don't have to work, just stay in jail longer"

2018-03-14 20:05:00 UTC

r e a l c h o i c e s

2018-03-14 20:05:10 UTC

You dont have to work

2018-03-14 20:05:19 UTC

The reduced sentence is a form of payment

2018-03-14 20:05:25 UTC

You do if you want to get out of jail

2018-03-14 20:05:30 UTC

Which you know, people do

2018-03-14 20:05:31 UTC

No you dont

2018-03-14 20:05:35 UTC

They do want to get out of jail

2018-03-14 20:05:36 UTC

It's not high school

2018-03-14 20:05:41 UTC

Are you slow?

2018-03-14 20:05:46 UTC

You can serve the sentence

2018-03-14 20:05:47 UTC

Why are you bringing up high school

2018-03-14 20:05:57 UTC

Yes, A longer sentence than if you had worked

2018-03-14 20:06:00 UTC

Because you have to work in hs

2018-03-14 20:06:11 UTC

And seeing as the goal is to spend as little time in jail as possible

2018-03-14 20:06:19 UTC

That obviously isnt a choice

2018-03-14 20:06:22 UTC

People will work

2018-03-14 20:06:28 UTC

Regardless as to whether they want to

2018-03-14 20:07:09 UTC

And asking "how will you eat if you dont work" is precisely my point about economic coercion

2018-03-14 20:07:27 UTC

That there is no reality in which humans partake naturallh partake in wage labour to get food

2018-03-14 20:07:34 UTC

It's no one's obligation to give you free shit

2018-03-14 20:07:38 UTC

Nor should they have tl

2018-03-14 20:07:45 UTC

And nobody is asking for anyone to give them free shit

2018-03-14 20:08:05 UTC

They're asking for an equitable distribution of the already ripe abundance of material wealth

2018-03-14 20:08:41 UTC

Yeah and I have two kidneys while some people have none

2018-03-14 20:08:57 UTC

I mean really, I feel as though we should've grown out of the appeal to "free shit"

2018-03-14 20:09:06 UTC

And I'm not gonna ask how that's relevant,

2018-03-14 20:09:11 UTC

Cause I don't care.

2018-03-14 20:09:21 UTC

But yes. Wage labour is a manufactured existence

2018-03-14 20:09:25 UTC

Life isnt fair

2018-03-14 20:09:28 UTC

And just as it was created, it can be destroyed

2018-03-14 20:09:40 UTC

Have you read the great leveler

2018-03-14 20:09:50 UTC

Don't know why you're appealing to fairness

2018-03-14 20:10:31 UTC

Nobody has to debate your conception of what is or isnt fair, to say that wage labour is unnatural, that it, within the broader scope of capitalism is bringing about the death of capitalism,

2018-03-14 20:10:40 UTC

And that it should be ended

2018-03-14 20:10:52 UTC

Why

2018-03-14 20:11:01 UTC

People worked since the beginning of time

2018-03-14 20:11:05 UTC

Read more and respond less

2018-03-14 20:11:08 UTC

I just said whu

2018-03-14 20:11:12 UTC

In the same paragraph

2018-03-14 20:11:15 UTC

The sky wont feed you

2018-03-14 20:11:22 UTC

It doesnt have to

2018-03-14 20:11:29 UTC

But work =/= wage labour

2018-03-14 20:11:33 UTC

Wage labour is a TYPE of work

2018-03-14 20:11:37 UTC

It is not ALL work

2018-03-14 20:11:43 UTC

Its work

2018-03-14 20:11:43 UTC

It didn't exist prior to capitalism

2018-03-14 20:11:47 UTC

And it doesn't have to exist now

2018-03-14 20:11:51 UTC

You cant just redefine work

2018-03-14 20:11:55 UTC

Work is work

2018-03-14 20:11:59 UTC

You mean the same way capitalists did?

2018-03-14 20:12:03 UTC

Interesting

2018-03-14 20:12:14 UTC

Capitalists can attempt to make work and wage labour somehow synonymous

2018-03-14 20:12:24 UTC

But if I remind you that no,

2018-03-14 20:12:25 UTC

They are

2018-03-14 20:12:27 UTC

They aren't,

2018-03-14 20:12:36 UTC

I'm somehow "redefining"

2018-03-14 20:12:40 UTC

The meaning of work

2018-03-14 20:12:45 UTC

Despite people partaking in worl

2018-03-14 20:12:48 UTC

Prove it

2018-03-14 20:12:53 UTC

That doesn't yield a wage

2018-03-14 20:13:05 UTC

If I go write a book and it doesn't sell for a profit

2018-03-14 20:13:25 UTC

I put in effort, I took something spent time and energy, and turned it into something else

2018-03-14 20:13:28 UTC

Work was done

2018-03-14 20:13:33 UTC

Notice how I wasn't paid a wage?

2018-03-14 20:13:43 UTC

Because I didnt produce via wage labour

2018-03-14 20:13:55 UTC

Rip steven

2018-03-14 20:14:00 UTC

A book wont feed you

2018-03-14 20:14:10 UTC

Hunter gatherers worked

2018-03-14 20:14:20 UTC

You're retarded

2018-03-14 20:14:28 UTC

Can you eat a book

2018-03-14 20:14:31 UTC

The point was illustrating the difference between wage labour

2018-03-14 20:14:36 UTC

And what Hunter gatherers

2018-03-14 20:14:40 UTC

Or literally anyone else did

2018-03-14 20:14:46 UTC

Hunter gatherers didnt have wage labour

2018-03-14 20:14:59 UTC

Wage labour and work are the same thing

2018-03-14 20:15:00 UTC

Hence my point, not all work is wage labour

2018-03-14 20:15:03 UTC

No they arent

2018-03-14 20:15:07 UTC

Yes they are

2018-03-14 20:15:11 UTC

You just illustrated my point for me

2018-03-14 20:15:22 UTC

You're so dense light moves around you.

2018-03-14 20:15:26 UTC

And it's aggravating

2018-03-14 20:15:34 UTC

So imma go do something else

2018-03-14 20:16:10 UTC

You work to feed yourself

2018-03-14 20:16:18 UTC

And gain materials

2018-03-14 20:17:18 UTC

Hunter gathers worked for food, wagies work for wages

2018-03-14 20:17:22 UTC

Its both work

2018-03-14 20:17:46 UTC

You can hunt and not catch anything

2018-03-14 20:17:49 UTC

Its still work

2018-03-14 20:24:10 UTC

Wtf

2018-03-14 20:37:45 UTC

<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***martini\_man#9341 has been warned.***

2018-03-14 21:20:35 UTC
2018-03-14 21:20:38 UTC

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2018-03-14 21:20:58 UTC

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