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2017-06-09 04:34:20 UTC

@Deleted User Is string theory disproven?

2017-06-09 04:34:28 UTC

I do not think the Christian God is really omnipotent. An all powerful god would simply destroy sin. There is no sin in Tengrism.

2017-06-09 04:34:48 UTC

An all powerful god does not need missionaries to spread his word.

2017-06-09 04:34:55 UTC

@Firefly No. Why are you mentioning random theories. I already made the logical framework. The argument depends on the fact that the universe expanded from a single point.

2017-06-09 04:34:56 UTC

If human nature wasn't evil then why do you have to teach someone goodness and morality?

2017-06-09 04:35:06 UTC

Or are people inherently moral?

2017-06-09 04:35:11 UTC

but yet humans come from a fallen caracter, hence the need to spread the word

2017-06-09 04:35:18 UTC

Because I think we try to improve, but we are in material circumstances that make us take some paths or lead us to some conclusions considered evil

2017-06-09 04:35:21 UTC

Babies are actually born with a strong sens eof morality

2017-06-09 04:35:25 UTC

for a baby.

2017-06-09 04:35:38 UTC

Tengri has spread the word himself in the form of thousands of different religions, all different fingers of Tengri.

2017-06-09 04:35:45 UTC

@Deleted User You said all other theories were disproven. Do you want a screenshot?

2017-06-09 04:35:49 UTC

Then why do you have to teach a child not to steal?

2017-06-09 04:35:51 UTC

This is an omnipotent god. Not a god who requires the work of missionaries.

2017-06-09 04:36:04 UTC

They lose it I guess if not reminded?

2017-06-09 04:36:11 UTC

@Firefly In the specific context of universe expansion, they are disproven.

2017-06-09 04:36:15 UTC

I don't know.

2017-06-09 04:36:15 UTC

are you a real mongol

2017-06-09 04:36:16 UTC

Show me how they were disproved.

2017-06-09 04:36:17 UTC

In a world of abundance, there's no stealing

2017-06-09 04:36:24 UTC

Then why do people steal?

2017-06-09 04:36:26 UTC

Tengri can spread the religion with a snap of his fingers, actually, without even thinking

2017-06-09 04:36:28 UTC

Still

2017-06-09 04:36:36 UTC

I don't think it's good too; as it's hard to define

2017-06-09 04:36:39 UTC

The Christian God employs men in black robes

2017-06-09 04:36:43 UTC

we're shaped

2017-06-09 04:36:47 UTC

Who is more powerful?

2017-06-09 04:36:49 UTC

No.

2017-06-09 04:36:54 UTC

We have a clear and defined nature.

2017-06-09 04:36:58 UTC

Without a God there can be no good and evil as there is no standard by which to judge actions.

2017-06-09 04:37:05 UTC

Earlier on, even Marx noted this.

2017-06-09 04:37:11 UTC

people steal for several reasons; one is commodity fetishism, other is poverty for example

2017-06-09 04:37:23 UTC

Stealing is still wrong though.

2017-06-09 04:37:33 UTC

The action itself is wrong even if the intention isn't necessarily.

2017-06-09 04:37:35 UTC

@Deleted User parents from inner mongolia

2017-06-09 04:37:45 UTC

stealing from a capitalist is expropriating the expropriators

2017-06-09 04:37:47 UTC

so what are you actually tengrist

2017-06-09 04:37:52 UTC

Yes

2017-06-09 04:37:58 UTC

wew

2017-06-09 04:38:00 UTC

stealing is defined by property

2017-06-09 04:38:14 UTC

what happens at a tengrist "church"

2017-06-09 04:38:20 UTC

but other worker

2017-06-09 04:38:32 UTC

that'd be wrong yes, we aren't in a post-scarce economy

2017-06-09 04:38:36 UTC

as it harms other person

2017-06-09 04:38:40 UTC

So then why does it matter?

2017-06-09 04:38:42 UTC

Nomads did not create churches if that is what you mean

2017-06-09 04:38:46 UTC

They were always on the move

2017-06-09 04:38:46 UTC

WAIT

2017-06-09 04:38:50 UTC

Listen here chap

2017-06-09 04:38:54 UTC

But the different fingers of Tengrism have created churches.

2017-06-09 04:38:58 UTC

@Firefly Really? OK, first alternative theory: Steady State theory, proposed by Bondi, Gold, and Hoyle. The final nail in the coffin of the Steady State theory came with the discovery of the microwave background radiation, in 1965. This radiation is the same in all directions. It has the spectrum of radiation in thermal equilibrium at a temperature of 2 point 7 degrees above the Absolute Zero of temperature. There doesn't seem any way to explain this radiation in the Steady State theory.

2017-06-09 04:39:03 UTC

This isn't an absolute

2017-06-09 04:39:07 UTC

what if someone stole my only picture of my grand mother? And she's been dead for ages?

2017-06-09 04:39:16 UTC

Is that not wrong?

2017-06-09 04:39:39 UTC

Even if I can "just get another frame and picture", it was more then that.

2017-06-09 04:40:01 UTC

I think so, it harms you

2017-06-09 04:40:15 UTC

So can that be removed in a "post scarcity economy"?

2017-06-09 04:40:30 UTC

@Deleted User What about the rest?

2017-06-09 04:40:33 UTC

maybe if you could get all the pictures you wanted

2017-06-09 04:40:47 UTC

Besides, there will always be scarcity.

2017-06-09 04:40:52 UTC

Unless we conquer the stars.

2017-06-09 04:41:06 UTC

But even then, there will be scarcity elsewhere.

2017-06-09 04:41:09 UTC

energy from the stars is a thing

2017-06-09 04:41:16 UTC

yes

2017-06-09 04:41:21 UTC

This is why commies have the whole "each according to need and each according to ability" thing.

2017-06-09 04:41:32 UTC

yes

2017-06-09 04:42:33 UTC

this is a nice discussion

2017-06-09 04:42:49 UTC

It's multiple discussions.

2017-06-09 04:43:37 UTC

In America companies waste a football fields pile of unopened food every day

2017-06-09 04:44:13 UTC

It is not impossible to give everyone a full meal

2017-06-09 04:44:48 UTC

I'm not talking about that

2017-06-09 04:44:51 UTC

@Firefly Second alternative, 'Peculiar Velocities' theory, popular in the USSR. It was argued, that as you plotted the position of the galaxies back in time, the sideways peculiar velocities, would have meant that the galaxies wouldn't have all met up. Instead, there could have been a previous contracting phase of the universe, in which galaxies were moving towards each other. The sideways velocities could have meant that the galaxies didn't collide, but rushed past each other, and then started to move apart. There wouldn't have been any singularity of infinite density, or any breakdown of the laws of physics. HOWEVER, a number of theorems by Roger Penrose and showed that general relativity predicted singularities, whenever more than a certain amount of mass was present in a region. These theorems were designed to show that time came to an end, inside a black hole, formed by the collapse of a star. However, the expansion of the universe, is like the time reverse of the collapse of a star. Therefore, observational evidence indicates the universe contains sufficient matter, that it is like the time reverse of a black hole, and so contains a singularity.

2017-06-09 04:44:59 UTC

that's different

2017-06-09 04:45:19 UTC

There is a large spider on my window

2017-06-09 04:45:25 UTC

KILL IT

2017-06-09 04:45:44 UTC

It is twitching one of its legs

2017-06-09 04:45:50 UTC

Moving its fangs eating something

2017-06-09 04:45:54 UTC

The body is the shape of a booger

2017-06-09 04:46:06 UTC

@Firefly Let me review it.

2017-06-09 04:46:32 UTC

They always come out night

2017-06-09 04:46:40 UTC

If you want to see where the insects come from

2017-06-09 04:46:47 UTC

Stay up late and pay attention to the walls

2017-06-09 04:46:56 UTC

Are they dangerous?

2017-06-09 04:47:12 UTC

I don't know if this spider is dangerous

2017-06-09 04:47:23 UTC

But it is oddly shaped

2017-06-09 04:48:10 UTC

*Oddly shaped*

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/322597719552163843/Black_flag.jpg

2017-06-09 04:48:30 UTC

If you are lucky you may catch different insects fighting.

2017-06-09 04:48:53 UTC

Once I saw this tiny dot of a spider continually pounce at this flat silverfish thing

2017-06-09 04:51:44 UTC

If there are rodents in your house they will also come out at night

2017-06-09 04:51:55 UTC

If you do not make too much noise

2017-06-09 04:52:39 UTC

I'll go now, bye

2017-06-09 04:52:44 UTC

Alright.

2017-06-09 04:52:54 UTC

Good talking to you, have a nice day.

2017-06-09 04:54:33 UTC

@Firefly This is an attempted rescue of the Steady State theory, suggesting that as galaxies moved apart, the idea was that new galaxies would form from matter that was supposed to be continually being created throughout space. Observations have shown more faint sources than predicted, indicating that the density sources were higher in the past. This was contrary to the basic assumption of the Steady State theory, that everything was constant in time. The Cambridge radio astronomy group did a survey of weak radio sources. These were distributed fairly uniformly across the sky, indicating that most of the sources lay outside our galaxy. The weaker sources would be further away, on average. However. observation shows a more faint sources than predicted, indicating that the density sources were higher in the past. This was contrary to the basic assumption presented here.

2017-06-09 04:56:17 UTC

This reads like an undergraduate paper.

2017-06-09 04:59:23 UTC

@Deleted User Its translated from Chinese.

2017-06-09 05:04:25 UTC

@Deleted User I'm not sure if you disproved even this paper.

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