Nope.

So...who wiped out ISIS then?

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder

Save the Boers

Petitions won't work.

@fannybandit Not one group, there cannot be one super magical country that does all the work.

Trump literally ignores them unless the White House deletes them.

@Deleted User That's my point...everyone would've had to work together.

@fannybandit Let me repeat myself: "Teamwork for the different sides, iraq temporarily sided with the kurdish before turning on them to defeat ISIS, and russia teamed up with iran, and syria because they were much more present in syria, and stronger. "

Russia and the US has a lot of tension back then.

@Deleted User You left out the US.

The majority of the influence.

They didn't work together though, russia and the US hate each other.

They did.

If they still did, ISIS would be able to thrive.

Not really, the US actually preformed few bombings in the middle east, it was turkey and iraq that did most of the bombings.

What of their mass occupations in warzones?

The US would've had to participate.

They didn't occupy shit.

So...they didn't control Iraq or Afghanistan?

I didn't claim that they didn't.

You're saying US forces had nothing to do with the ISIS defeat?

But the US pulled out of the middle east almost a decade before ISIS was defeated.

Not nothing, but little.

The US never pulled out.

We're still there.

We always were.

@fannybandit Yes, they did, did you not pay attention to worldwide events in 2011? 99% of our ground forces were sent home and only advisors were left.

In both Iraq and Afghanistan?

Yep.

Show me.

I'm not buying that at all.

There's no way in hell 99% of our forces just left.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-withdrawal/last-u-s-troops-leave-iraq-ending-war-idUSTRE7BH03320111218

I know that because even after ISIS is defeated, we're still malingering.

Dude...

That's Reuters...

They say anything for attention.

They're the tabloids of journalism.

Get me a times source.

@fannybandit And while the US has not "officially" left afghanistan because the taliban still control 1/3 of afghanistan, the numbers of troops dropped from around 10K in the early 2000's, to about a few dozen today.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/world/middleeast/last-convoy-of-american-troops-leaves-iraq.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

"Still, the United States will continue to play a role in Iraq. The largest American Embassy in the world is located here, and in the wake of the military departure it is doubling in size — to roughly 16,000 people, most of them contractors. Under the authority of the ambassador will be fewer than 200 military personnel, to guard the embassy and oversee the sale of weapons to the Iraqi government."

We never left, we just rotated warfighters.

You have to read it all.

Those 16,000 contractors were most likely made up of mercenaries.

We traded soldiers for monsters.

Soldiers can keep the peace...mercenaries don't want peace.

Bad for business.

@fannybandit Still not US soldiers, and, mercanaries have kind of died out in iraq, mostly because there is nobody left to shoot at, they either went to kurdistan or the dier ez zor region where ISIS is still present on the conventional warfare level.

We're talking about 2011, remember?

Yes, mercenaries have died out in Iraq.

Luckily...otherwise there would be chaos.

fake lefist

lol

ISIS is no longer present on the conventional warfare level.

There hasn't been a single death of a conventional soldier in over a year.

They exist in kurdistan today, and for the most part they are just gambits from foreign powers to scrap up more power, and a large part of the former ISIS fighters have become kurdistan fighters...... really makes you wonder.....

They aren't causing military casualties.

They may as well not exist.

@fannybandit How many times do I have to show you an article that shows how a group of people got shot to death or got bombed by a jet.

How do you know?

I know because there hasn't been a single report of a conventional soldier dying.

There have been a few special operations KIAs in the past year...but that's it.

All of them are reported.

In other words you don't know because you have just been extremely ignorant, to the point where you have purposefully ignored articles from the middle east that showed how many people have died.

I haven't ignored a single article.

I'm stating that there are no more conventional KIAs.

Therefore, anyone can reasonably deduce that terrorism on a conventional warfighting level no longer exists.

FUCK.

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-february-deir-ezzur-eastern-countryside-at-approximately

"liveuamap"

"Totally legit bro"

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-february-deir-ezzur-eastern-countryside-a-number-of-isis

The UN has one of those...

Also, airstrikes are not conventional warfighting.

@fannybandit A fallacy I see, you ignore the evidence and just claim "B-BUT IT IS JUST PROPAGANDA!".

They're called in by special operations.

I'm not saying that it's propaganda, I'm saying that it doesn't constitute conventional warfighting whatsoever.

I wouldn't go around using that as a credible source, even if it is, it only proves my point.

Conventional warfare is dead.

https://somalia.liveuamap.com/en/2018/21-february-al-shabab-claimed-killing-an-us-soldier-and-four

Four soldiers...all with no names...

And yes, airstrikes are a conventional form of warfare, it has been for 100 years now.

Why would a terrorist cell purposefully give out the names of their soldiers in a guriella resistance movement?

Also...if this was true...how would this be conventional?

It's not conventional when special operations calls it in.

You know,we won't come to you.
You have to come to us.

@fannybandit It is conventional, because it has been used in conventional warfare for over 100 years, with battles being assited by planes.

Who is special operations? Last I knew, al-shabab was an entrance of ISIS into somalia, which cannot realistically be stopped, because there has been no government in somalia for several decades.

@Krokodilanto Who are you and who are you talking to?

@Deleted User I'm talking about how it's used...not what it is.

I'm speaking to whoever's listening

That determines whether it's conventional or not.

@Krokodilanto Why would anyone come to you?

Not me

Us

Who's "us"?

@fannybandit Planes that drop bombs on people, or get into dogfights with other planes, what is non conventional about it? Does it has to be a rugged soldier with a gun in hand to be conventional for you?

We're talking about airstrikes being called in by special operations...not dog-fighting.

Context is everything.

@Krokodilanto You're being creepy...which explains why this person in question isn't coming to you.

@Krokodilanto How would someone come to you?