Message from @fannybandit
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Petitions won't work.
@fannybandit Not one group, there cannot be one super magical country that does all the work.
Trump literally ignores them unless the White House deletes them.
@Deleted User That's my point...everyone would've had to work together.
@fannybandit Let me repeat myself: "Teamwork for the different sides, iraq temporarily sided with the kurdish before turning on them to defeat ISIS, and russia teamed up with iran, and syria because they were much more present in syria, and stronger. "
Russia and the US has a lot of tension back then.
@Deleted User You left out the US.
The majority of the influence.
They didn't work together though, russia and the US hate each other.
They did.
If they still did, ISIS would be able to thrive.
Not really, the US actually preformed few bombings in the middle east, it was turkey and iraq that did most of the bombings.
What of their mass occupations in warzones?
The US would've had to participate.
They didn't occupy shit.
So...they didn't control Iraq or Afghanistan?
I didn't claim that they didn't.
You're saying US forces had nothing to do with the ISIS defeat?
But the US pulled out of the middle east almost a decade before ISIS was defeated.
Not nothing, but little.
We're still there.
We always were.
@fannybandit Yes, they did, did you not pay attention to worldwide events in 2011? 99% of our ground forces were sent home and only advisors were left.
In both Iraq and Afghanistan?
Yep.
Show me.
I'm not buying that at all.
There's no way in hell 99% of our forces just left.
I know that because even after ISIS is defeated, we're still malingering.
Dude...
That's Reuters...
They say anything for attention.
They're the tabloids of journalism.
Get me a times source.
@fannybandit And while the US has not "officially" left afghanistan because the taliban still control 1/3 of afghanistan, the numbers of troops dropped from around 10K in the early 2000's, to about a few dozen today.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/world/middleeast/last-convoy-of-american-troops-leaves-iraq.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
"Still, the United States will continue to play a role in Iraq. The largest American Embassy in the world is located here, and in the wake of the military departure it is doubling in size — to roughly 16,000 people, most of them contractors. Under the authority of the ambassador will be fewer than 200 military personnel, to guard the embassy and oversee the sale of weapons to the Iraqi government."
We never left, we just rotated warfighters.
You have to read it all.
Those 16,000 contractors were most likely made up of mercenaries.