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the strong laborer who makes a fiery speech to his fellow serfs can be dominant in the same way that others could be
That's a very good point. Ideas can be more powerful than status if the conditions are ripe enough.
i think it is wrong to automatically assume any ruling class is responsible
this could potentially do your own movement harm, or discredit a genuine movement, simply by making the assumption
Can a rich man start a revolution for the poor, and a poor man start a revolution for the rich?
Well Zhou enlai came from the rich in Manchuria and helped Mao
that depends
or well, it doesn't depend
but you should clarify
is this "revolution" intended, or is it a byproduct of something else?
is a rich man specifically doing it to better the lives of the poor, and vice versa?
Yes, I am talking about potentiality. Is it ever possible for someone to make a speech to inspire against his personal, material interests, regardless of intent?
yes, but the motive could just as easily be unrelated
To tie this up then, often the ruling class or dominant individuals will be responcible for using armies in their own interests, but it is not always the case. It is also possible they can do the opposite.
mhm
If this is truly tied up I would like to bring up unifying global languages and my design plan for how we could try to do it
why would you do that?
It interests me as I know alot about linguistics
One last thing before you move on too far, to return to the example of terrorism and the psychological obsession in the West. Is this a ruling class ideology or do the masses also use it for their benefit?
well, you're excluding those who, in the minority of a population, through whatever means, reach dominance and can acheive the same thing
without being among the ruling class
an example could be a foreign coup
or a bunch of fringe radicals who somehow get the government to bend knee
Oh, I forgot that ruling class and dominance are different things.
I really just want to understand the phenomena and the reasons behind it.
@Evan Are you are representative of the great Aryan race, sir?
@Deleted User I see no benefit to the masses in the us from this mindset, being a member of the masses, I can't speak for all proles across the US though
@Evan Certainly the White Race has better means than spam and incoherent images?
I don't associate with dirty cumskins
I don't associate with exterminators of Slavs
@Evan Lack of diplomacy is the mark of a primitive worldview. You are welcome to it, but do not spread it amongst those who respect intelligent discourse.
@Evan Are you white trash or Aryan superman? Is this how the elite of your people spend their free time?
I already told you I'm not white
I like you ^
Why
too bad
FREEZE PEACH!
like putting images of black rioting...
like if inequalities didn't exist
or the image of the kid and minecraft, like if communism was egalitarianism
Do you know what communism is?
yes
" Communism is the doctrine of the conditions of the liberation of the proletariat."
>like if communism was egalitarianism
No apparently you dont
It's when cultural Marx eats all the white babies and sterilizes white men and mixes white people with Jewish transvestite manlets from Nigeria
communism isn't about redistributing the wealth
is about taking the means of production so workers can get the labour they produce
Communism is materialistic/economic egalitarian
What
There's no arguing that lmao
it's not egalitarian; but removing the bourgeoisie makes a more egalitarian world since there's no exploitation
Why do it's follower countries not follow such a model then
it doesn't want to redistribute the wealth between the workers
the same workers
In the Soviet union you got money based on how much you work and how much your work is worth
What do you guys have to say about communism failing so much?
It's a genuine question
The Soviet Union failed because of internal market liberalization
Most Russians wish for it to be back
"We Communists have been reproached with the desire of abolishing the right of personally acquiring property as the fruit of a manโs own labour, which property is alleged to be the groundwork of all personal freedom, activity and independence.
Hard-won, self-acquired, self-earned property! Do you mean the property of petty artisan and of the small peasant, a form of property that preceded the bourgeois form? There is no need to abolish that; the development of industry has to a great extent already destroyed it, and is still destroying it daily. "
personal property isn't abolished
those saying that it didn't work are trotskyists, we aren't; it worked and we say that revisionism entered culminating in the restoration of capitalism
Some things you may cite against us aren't actually communist and i can explain
Ie Venezuela
Or the dprk
I.E.*
@Evan are you going to say anything?
To put it simply Venezuela was only ever democratic socialist, meaning to acheive socialism democratically with reform
Anybody can see that they have a large private sector
And the dprk has gone towards juche because of the threat of south Korea and imperialism, it was last socialist in 1972 although it is not as poor as portrayed it still suffers from poverty
Venezuela was the richest country in South America before Chavez
Only socialism can fuck something up that bad
Are you autistic and did you read what I said
Only an autistic man would think reform can build socialism
even in that they reduced poverty
The private sector can't do anything because of the government
the private sector must be entirely expropriated or they aren't socialists
>reduced poverty
yes
>gained one do the highest crime rates in the world
>tolerating financed opposition
What do you say against the argument that communism is not yet suitable for human nature?
that argument emerges in the view that to make communism people have to be altruist, or that they'll be worse; they won't be able to trade
the workers, who are the majority; would have improvements in their work, healthcare and education; they'd feel less alienated and therefore they would be able to fill their emotions better
so it's more compatible with "human nature"
Bullshit.
if they point out scientific management under in the period of war they have to realize that they needed to speed up the production because they were in the backward compared to other countries
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