almost happened with Sanders

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We can daydream about working democracy tommorow or accept it doesn't work today

Remember that time the hillary mobile illegally dumped their human waste?

never said she was good

@Firefly so insaid of fixing it we get rid of it?

@MRLOcelot23 fixing what? Democracy does not work even on paper. It is a false idea.

@MRLOcelot23 >When you cheat bernie out of his campaign and you try the same method with trump but instead it completely backfires and reveals that you cheated in the elections multiple times]

@Firefly That's why a jew like you should advocate for it.

i support Berine i hate the corrpote dems

@Firefly you have shown me how its falwed in the us not how it dosnt work

That's implying that he wasn't one.

?

@MRLOcelot23 While he wasn't the one doing the cheating in the elections, he sure as shit is corrupt merely by associating himself with the democrats and running for them.

That is not to say that the GOP is not corrupt, but the democrats show it the most.

he ran with them cause they were his best chances of winning

Well no shit.

Why do you think that trump chose the GOP?

cause hes a republian

Elaborate.

he belives in ubpublian policy

is corrupt

etc

@MRLOcelot23 it doesn't work because it's a limitation. It does not allow for an authoritharian organization which is much better. There must be a complex of institutions. Authoritarian institutions must work alongside with democratic. Otherwise democracy leads to fascism, neoliberalism, chruschevism.

@MRLOcelot23 And what is ubpublian policy?

@Deleted User a misspelling of reubplicain

@Firefly your an idiot but lets keep debating

@MRLOcelot23 why?

@MRLOcelot23 And what is reubplicain theory?

@ failing to spell cause your a retard

@Firefly its ment to be a limitation to stop things like facism

@MRLOcelot23 but fascist were elected.

@MRLOcelot23 Are you fucking retarded?

It was meant to be put in place so that kings and leaders could not gain too much power

@Firefly they were due to people strrugling

Fascism was not a thing yet.

Dickhead.

@Deleted User thats what i ment i miswordd XD

@MRLOcelot23 people always struggle.

@MRLOcelot23 I assume that you are either 10, or english is your second language.

@Firefly yes but there are cases where is very bad due to a number of reasons

@Deleted User i am nether i am just stupid

@MRLOcelot23 what is bad? The democratic system bringing fascism is bad?

@Firefly He obviously does not know what he is talking about.

@Firefly i ment the sitaution people were in were bad like the grea depperation

@MRLOcelot23 What?

@Deleted User thats the kind of enverioment that leads to stuff like facism so its the govermnts job to make sure that dosnt h happen and if it dose offer soultions

@MRLOcelot23 Are you really fucking dense?

@MRLOcelot23 this situations happen all the time. You re-elected Bush, Obama. Even so they been lying to your face 24 hours a day for months

@Firefly Obama helped fix stuff after the resssission

@MRLOcelot23 Come back to me when you actually know what you are talking about, because you obviously have less than a surface level understanding of what you are trying to debate.

@MRLOcelot23 he didn't do anything he was talking about and got re-elected.

@Deleted User think i do have a decent understanding

@Firefly unemployment is at a record low the econmey is more or less stabe

@MRLOcelot23 how is that making lying to you better?

@MRLOcelot23 That is under the trump administraition....

@Firefly Obama did liie alot but he did fix the econmy

@Deleted User it was under Trump but Trump hasnt changed the econmy

How so?

@Deleted User and the econmy started to get better around 2010 201

@Deleted User what do you mean how so he hasnt done anything to it

@MRLOcelot23 That was one of the biggest things that he claimed to do, and that was leaving it alone and only decreasing taxes, and it appears to be working.

Like I said, less than a surface level understanding.

@Deleted User the data shows it got better

What got better?

And what data?

the data on the econmy and job growth

both got better by around 2012

Okay? And?

That will happen naturally.

not that quick

and it could have goneinto a deppression

but it didnt

ay

That was several years after the recession, a fair ammount of time to recover, don't you think?

ooh a falangist.

nice

@Deleted User Yhea, took you a while to notice.

the recession was 2008 and it was better by 2012

lol

so no i dont thimk so

@MRLOcelot23 what ideology do you follow

liberalism

@MRLOcelot23 4 years, that is plenty of time to give an economy to recover from a recession.

the real liberalism or cuck liberalism today?

@Deleted User He cannot spell, and has less than a surface level of debating.

@Deleted User not if the gov sits on its arse

@Deleted User taking a shit takes longer than catalan independence

@MRLOcelot23 So not doing anything to it worked in favor of the government?

@Deleted User i ment if Obama did nothing i dount it would have recovered

@Deleted User He literally thought earlier that democracy was invented so that fascists could not come to power.

@MRLOcelot23 Then your wording was off..... again.

i misworded

XD

@Deleted User but its a good choice that catalonia deceided to stop, otherwise there would have been 2nd spanish civil war

yh i ment like dictators ans stuff

@Deleted User 8 SECONDS OF INDEPENDANCE

@Deleted User btw, its not like leftists in catalonia would have won

@Deleted User a couple of vegan skinny cucks vs a entire fucking spanish army ready to rip some libtards apart, lol

@MRLOcelot23 It came from anchient greece, there was no concept of a dictator of the time, only a king.