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Zoroastrians knew it
RIP zoroastrians
What is the zoroastrian connection?
They don't solicit. It is forbidden. Only good individuals will join them because of that.
Wise. Lesson learned.
Very opposite concept from Islam where every half-brained monkey can join and should.
We also have Trotskiests and syndicalists who think the same.
I think I had the wrong idea, trying to convince others.
Convincing works better on the level of organization. Especially when the masses are needed to follow the Party. It is a great skill to convince. But on a later stage, when you descend to masses.
First we need the onse who do not follow.
It is hard to get them by convincing. Requires book writing and such.
It is easier to convince when you play for keeps, not chatter on the internet with no skin in the game. I will focus on myself.
I think it is much harder to build the core of a Party than to do mass propaganda.
Masses will follow. If there is someone to
It is in the nature of the masses
To follow
I think you are right. I still have lots of reading to do. Are you interest in trying to build the core of a Party?
That is what Proriv journal does. I'm not sure where is equivalent in the West. Maybe American Labour Party. But they are American and disorganized. Every western organization I've seen so far is against discipline and is very sectarian/individualistic.
CPGB (ML) maybe a good starting point
But I'm in the states.
I think it is best to start a new organization really.
In the west
I have been watched videos produced by CPGB ML. It has good information but they have a strong focus on recruiting more members. In my country there is no good ML groups either.
Where is it?
What country?
@Deleted User I think CPGB ML passed through many shifts. I think it was twice they purged many and re-established pure ideology. If they target more people right now it might be OK for them.
In Australia.
@Deleted User Very unlucky.
Move to Europe, USA.
For politics.
It would be a shame such intelligence rot in Australia.
I would not rule it out. After I finished reading Fundamentals I will decide if I will be a Marxist or not.
It is not a decision.
If you decide on it you are not Marxist from the beginning. It is a process of arrival to conclusions.
I had a hard time becoming Marxist because of idealist concept. It was very hard to break it.
I made no such decision before I even started. I wait for more information to see if the theory is reasonable enough to take further. I need to make a decision at some point. I think I will know after I have read all the basics.
decision on what? It does not require a decision. I didn't decide to become Marxist.
I was hardcore idealist.
My difficulties are also idealist. Absolute, dogmatic and mystical thinking, as a response to stress. I guess the illusion of a decision is also idealism, but letting go of it.
And the consequences of idealism hit me so hard I'm still not fully recovered.
So it is not a decision. If it for me to decide I would stay idealist.
I say try your idealism hard to shatter it.
That seems radical, but interesting.
It worked for me.
Not without breaking bones.
But it worked.
Better option is reading books.
My dirty secret is that I have a soft spot for Islam.
@Deleted User Islam is a great way to control masses indeed.
What consequences of hardcore idealism did you find?
@Deleted User absence of result is the worst. I was also been destroyed by the pressure I've put myself under. Even physically. But also personally.
That is why the promise of Heaven is such a successful psychological trick. It forces a gamble and you never know whether it is true or not. Then the idealistic mind wants to believe, the subconciousness wants to believe, and also to avoid Hell. Fear is the other side to suppress Reason.
@Deleted User You do know the one who promised you Heaven was a merchant with a history of tricking you into it for profits.
Certain personalities are vulnerable.
Most non-adult not yet educated are. Most adults are vulnerable. That is why I think to use idealism is more efficient than to fanatically eradicate it.
Lenin was wrong on it I think.
Also suffering and stress make people more religious. Marx mentioned its pain killing effects. You can not punish religion out of people. You only reinforce it in their minds. You make martyrs.
@Deleted User I think, both directions should take place at the same time. One is to educate idealists into diamat. Second is to use remaining idealism for a better good.
If you can't completely destroy it - lead it.
Anyway, for me, I think to embrace hardcore idealism would be a one way trip.
@Deleted User I already did my one way trip.
Maybe you have a better luck.
Interesting.
No matter how strong you are the material forces are stronger.
It is great when strength is combined with the material forces.
Very beneficial.
Look at Stalin. He wasn't too smart, he didn't write much and didn't complement the Theory. But his little strength was enough to change the whole word and to win all his rivals. Just because he had a materialistic Theory behind him.
I need to digest this. Maybe talk to you tomorrow.
gosh. LSD analogues are totally legal in Germany for some reason. who woulda thunk it...swim told me..if you leave the PLSD in the freezer it gradually gets stronger and degrades into pure LSD 25. How strange!
X/A axis ?..genetics? now you're really pushing the envelope. How dare you!!! fuck your ethnic consciousness during this full spectrum war on European ethnicity by jewish supremacists! cunt!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/ can't stand those whining neanderthal remnants #soroslivesmatter
the left are dead in the water like a toxin...they are NOT on the ball to what is going down
escaping the lifelong programming is the best thing you can do. It really isn't requisite to start hating other peoples just because you become aware of the rights of your own ethnicity.
@slack#7189 I don't see pure LSD in USA for long time already.
It mostly garbage.
b..b..but muh colonialism...gtfo bobblehead...the first world is uniquely comprised of post colonial societies..where the rule of law was introduced, life expectancies increased and generally the infrastructures that are still in evidence today, were built
it's legal here, buddy...i can send you some if you want
It is easier to use deep-web camel caravans.
i dunno..i can order it overnet, no probs..it's almost like the leftwing govt here wants ppl to get messed up on the stuff lol
I don't think you can fix problems of EU with more legislation.
EU cannot be fixed, it's another German meme to take over Europe first by enslaving the countries with a common currency and then with legislation
And the legislatiob will only help the corporations to crack the small business
Just like the Mussolini fascist state
@Deleted User Lolbertarian detected
<:porky:315615014751043588> like my new legislation my dear friend! we are working for you!
@Deleted User and thus the beginning of the new Reich
not like that, why call it with such a harsh word
"Union" is better
disguise it just like they do today :^)
(((((((((German meme)))))))))))
@Deleted User Wow is that an example of gooddest goy alive
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