Of tao

I can see it working for some but too pacifistic for my liking

some great chapters in there, real wisdom

I dont mean like in the practical sense, tao is correlated with stoicism and it represent its practical side there

I meant if you agreed on the 'wholeness' and the eternal cycle and all that structures when you gave some thought to it

Anyone here familiar with Guénon?

should probs go in theory

but French or English hmm

No kys

not very nice

Neither are you

I so am

Nah

but I love you Lenin

-_-

you slay liquidators and shun leftcoms

Tru

(>-_-)>

I don't know what that is but I still love you

Then read my books

My child

I've read a good few

I recommend my letter to the American workers it's only like 15 pages

haven't read that one

Loved State & Revolution tho fam

One of my best works

is it dis one? https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/aug/20.htm

Here's a vacation photo from when the kremlin took me to Disney land

Yee it's dat one

those fucking dastardly scumbags

Tru

<:lenin:322125387297456131>

you see

having argued literally last night with people who'd assert capitalism vs communism in an all-out slugging match of productive efficiency (LOL NO STARVATION IN 1ST WORLD COUNTRIES) it really hits home that none of them could've read anything even remotely related to the subject matter

The first page of this is partly dedicated to describing the US industrial apparatus as one worthy of praise and intrigue, but one fundamentally set apart from collective ownership/operation

Marx talks about it quite a lot too

think he downplays the financial incentives for 1776 though

"The history of modern, civilised America opened with one of those great, really liberating, really revolutionary wars of which there have been so few compared to the vast number of wars of conquest[...]"

Did you recommend this because of what I said about liquidators?

"Small wonder that the international imperialist gang hates us for this, that it “accuses” us, that all the lackeys of the imperialists, including our Right Socialist-Revolutionaries and Mensheviks, also “accuse” us. The hatred these watchdogs of imperialism express for the Bolsheviks, and the sympathy of the class-conscious workers of the world, convince us more than ever of the justice of our cause."

@Deleted User ahh that's why
"there are *fagots* et fagots, as the French say"

The fuck

'agreements and agreements' I think

Mmhm

might start using 'man in the muffler'

well i wanted to argue about poverty in the western world, you didn't want to

cause if we're counting poverty to the death toll of a system the rest of the systems stand no chance

I wasn't averse to it, I was just correcting some of the misassumptions you made before hand

like?

and I sort of did address it, I acknowledged that capitalism as a mode of production has led to an increase in quality of life

but that assertions made in Das Kapital were relevant as they had their basis in observing material conditions of Russian laborers at the time

I was arguing against the ''death toll'' of capitalism, the article you posted

Specifically?

it included poverty which is insane

I don't know, you posted it

You don't know what you were arguing against?

I didn't write the article mate

you don't know what you were posting as an argument?

lmao

I gave it as food for thought versus the "Communist Death Toll" meme, I hadn't read it all.

and then you complained that I didn't read it fully, when you didn't even do it.

wtf

you hadn't read any of it

you just assumed it was wrong

no shit, I wasn't citing it

let's get the article up again

http://guerrillaontologies.com/2014/05/attempting-the-impossible-calculating-capitalisms-death-toll/

"Poverty. One of the most overlooked causes of death today is something called “structural violence” – that is, violence against the bottom rungs of society in order to make a profit. Structural violence can occur due to lack of medical care, slashing of wages, gentrification, etc. But without a doubt, structural violence is the largest killer WORLDWIDE. Studies performed by Canadian researches Gernot Kohler and Norman Alcock published under the title “An Empirical Table of Structural Violence” found that 18,000,000 people die each year due to systemic poverty"

''18,000,000 people die each year due to systemic poverty"'' KEK

I want to see that study

sounds like pure nonsense

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/002234337601300405

''Structural violence can occur due to lack of medical care, slashing of wages, gentrification, etc.''

again, I wouldn't go in with assumptions

You did it when you cited the study

which you didn't even read

"sounds like pure nonsense"

don't do that

I didn't

"I gave it as food for thought versus the "Communist Death Toll" meme, I hadn't read it all."

you did post an article you hadn't even read

I hadn't read all of it, I'd scanned through it.

not a good idea when posting something as evidence of the big bad capitalism killing machine

If you do know what it's about, tell me how capitalism produces poverty deaths that don't happen in other systems

lol

"READ FOR ME"

While I'm reading this article for you, tell me

What incentive would the Vietnam war have been based on without capitalist interests in the region?

"The War in Vietnam to “beat Communism” and maintain an Asian sphere of influence – 3,800,000 Vietnamese between 1955-1984 [46] about 58,000 US soldiers [47] about 200,000 in Laos [48] about 300,000 in Cambodia [49] it’s hard to calculate Agent Orange deaths but up to 4,800,000 people were exposed [50] and 100,000 US soldiers killed themselves"

Same reason any other country invades another country

to spread their influence

here's the full source btw http://sci-hub.cc/10.1177/002234337601300405

"to spread their influence"

explain.

What's their to explain? they would like another friendly country in asia

Industries have financial incentives to maintain capitalist spheres of trade throughout the world

to plant their military base etc

e.g. the rubber trade having an incentive to open up African markets

e.g. the Congo