Fascists should still be allowed to vote

Oh yeah, I agree, but some people disagree with this premise.

Oh definately.

I know

But also liberals should be allowed to vote

And women

And men

Etc. You get the point

The point of voting is that sometimes (or most of the time) you don't get what you want, but what some other guy wants. If you aren't ok with that, just argue against voting in general.

I am ok with people arguing against democracy, but the idea of "le redpilled democracy no girls allowed" sounds so cuckish.

If you are gonna limit voting rights, may as well go back to autocracy

Or something

If you'll limit voting rights don't go off of certain political groups you like but those that are likely to vote responsibly in the interests of the next generation.

But what is considered responsible

***not on government aid***

Liberals will have a **very** different idea than conservatives

And everyone will disagree

And it would turn into a huge mess

I get a lot of flak from saying that from all groups

Like what is your definition of a responsible voter

Is it someone who has passed a civics course?

Or a very specific portion of the population?

@twomoo1119 so you think it is "ok" for people to vote of the market? or what they should do with you assets?

Those who have their lives under control financially having a family as well

What the government should do with their money @kotten ?

@twomoo1119 lol you are not a libertarian

?

I’m trying to understand what you are saying

Rights only meaningfully exist insofar as there is an authority to enforce them.

Because only those that have skin in the game should hold political sway the right to vote should not be universal.

^

Essentially what I was getting at

And because you are owned nothing on principle the right to vote must be earned

Also universal suffrage was a massive mistake.

@ImATomato

Like fucking hell you don't need to watch Century of the Self to know this

Yes lol

you think your assets belongs to the state as long as the democracy votes for it to be confiscated?

Someone post William Pierce's graph on the lemming mentality

@kotten yeah, I would personally think lower taxes would be beneficial for the state

"You have to earn your right to vote, except some people can't earn their right to vote" 🤔

But I’m not an anarchist

Anarchy is G A Y

I mean not every can earn the right to drive

LMAO it's a joke about how women have voted with their emotions @Kazimir Malevich

Same shpiel

@King Leopold II does that mean elimination of votes for all gays in your opinion?

I mean

If it were up to me

If they cant have a family

Right?

`gays wouldn't exist`

@ImATomato You aren't barring certain groups from driving except the group of people that haven't passed their exam though.

Lol

What

Kazimir it makes no sense for non citizens to vote

@twomoo1119 but as long as democracy votes for it you will hand it over. The problem is the religious way people look at democracy

@ImATomato I meant citizens, of course, bloody heck.

I don’t think democracy is perfect

What they find wrong they will let it en because the herd has spoken

I think there are flaws

Lol fag

Unless you wish for women to become non-citizens

🤔

:bigthink:

I really don't believe in voting on principle but if you are to vote idk if I'd give women the right to earn it.

@King Leopold II how would you stop gays from existing

Being against voting is better than being for voting that restricts certain groups @ImATomato

Whatever you say bucko

I would just get rid of votes all together.

I mean

If you are gonna do it

Just abolish democracy

Ye, then that's another argument. Democracy is a principle, you can't go limp-wristed on it.

@twomoo1119 The same way as the mailman

What

Please be more straightforward with me

I’m not so familiar with analogies

"Truth is... the vote was rigged from the start"

***bang***

Voting has been fairly good for the past few decades

It could always be a little bit better

But still

I don't want to be locked to either vote for poision or slightly less lethal poison

I didn’t say I liked first past the post

Every time we vote we vote for people who neither have any interest nor are subject to any repercussion for betraying their promises

Yeet

Yeah

Perhaps there should be systems to ensure that politician’s personal interests line up even more with the public interests

Voting in general is gay

fuck democracy tbh

Suggestion?

I see too many fucking retards given the right to vote

Autocracy now

i remember a girl who voted for Al Gore because she thought he was cute okay

too many plebs allowed to decide the future

https://youtu.be/hS7e60d7eh4

Ban aztecs from voting

Jesus what's with women and voting for looks?

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No voting for people with <130 IQ unless it is a local matter that pertains to them

People shouldn't vote

government, to represent the will of the people, must know that will

as things do, paths change, and surveys must be had for the new paths

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Why are japanese so woke

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Abe is an imperialistic dog that deserves to be put down

No one should vote

End of story

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Or @Bearer Of The Curse ?

Really?

Il go and pass it on

How do you know

Did he give the slip

You talking to me?

Sounds cool, hope that FBI agent succeeds at his job.

Im asking about that agent

Who pinged

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And woke me up from my beauty sleep?

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@Kazimir Malevich the BND are the scum of the german people

Kernowek Kenedhlek Socyalydhek - This dude found out(probaly by talking to him) and passed on one of the servers I'm in

Who cares i have nothing to hide

Huh

Is this how they dox people

They would rather thro their own people in jail for defending themselves then to arrest a rape gang even thought they have all the profe and authority they need.

Why not do both?

Epic.

They are "germans" anyway.

(((Germans)))

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Hello

so would you call this a debate server, because thats what I was kinda looking for?

@Union Flag your pfp is gay

Well, from my experience most of it is shitposting, but it's intended purpose is to debate indeed

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My opinion: The right to vote shall be earned through first finishing High School, and then being at least 25 years old.

@Deleted User I mean yeah but buzzfeed will turn that into something that is racist because most balck people don't finish highschool

Then shut down Buzzfeed.

shit on it

balck lives matter too

and of course vox and vice

anything that is the big gay

Citizens who have not graduated shall not have the right to vote, in my opinion. Once they have left College, and finally breaks loose of the socialist bubble, where all the poltics they crave is to get their college debt off them, they can start functioning as a citizen in the society.

Also, I do believe that most women should not have the right to vote.

@Deleted User why is that most women don't deserve the right to vote

As they don't get drafted, and in my view of a functioning government, they ought to furfill other roles, such as childbearing and housekeeping.

Most women in America didn't even want the right to vote, as it came with bucket-duty and the draft.

Is the argument your trying to make that suffragettes weren’t a thing?

The argument he's trying to say is that suffragettes weren't that numerous

Doesn’t seem to map to history chief

Oh-no, not at all, but I read a study a long time a go that were from decades ago, that stated that most women didn't seek the right to vote, as it came with other responsibilities.

I acknowledge that many of the women fought for the right to vote, and they won.

Women can have the right to vote if they're willing to get drafted.

Again doesn’t really conform to the reality of British and American activism by women. Certainly there were some who fought against it and I’m sure many were ambivalent. I agree franchise should be bundled with the draft where conscription is a thing

The army is not even seriously active anymore, and having mixed or female squads only makes the army worse

Which country are we talking about? America?

Any for that matter

Untrue and not what militaries who’ve deployed those squads report

Mandatory conscription for all citizens, two years of service minimum.

Female only squads do underperform but the studies on that are pretty small

Can you source your claim?

Is that a claim that needs to be sourced?

"Untrue and not what militaries who’ve deployed those squads report"
This one is

And volunteer armies efficacy shouldn’t be forced to be diluted by people who don’t want to be there

Not wanting to be there is the draft

Unless war happens, then it's all good

Just put women in support roles until cybernetics makes the gender distinction irrelevant.

And only allow the very few women who can meet the male standard into combat roles.

That seems like the most fair and efficient solution.

Kinda my point curse. Conscription should be considered a last ditch effort

Death to commkss

Commies

Death to Rightists

And I’ll find a source for that claim for you

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>Bearer of the Curse
>curse

Bolshevism is gay

National-Bolshevism is Chad

virgin bolshevist vs chad kemalist

NazBols are all LARPing retards I assumed people here just picked that as a euphemism for third position

Imagine being Turkish and thinking your descents are from Central Asia when they're all browns from Arabia

But that's false though

i’m not turkish lmao

My views just most closely align with Kemalism

Hope Turkey takes over Western Europe and replaces all non-slavs.

Now I hate turkey but I agree

Let's do the Anglocast

nah, hungarians, greeks and italians can stay

Anglocast when?

retards

Hungarians, greeks and italians are just honourary slavs.

@Deleted User shut up non slav

you have no power here

begone

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slavshits

RUSH B

civ nat north american larping as a slav

epic

>Larping North Americans
a.k.a this server

Gorbachev was the best thing to happen to Russia since Yeltsin

indeed

I stay in this server for the cringe

Based

>since

this man clearly has read siege

he possesses a large cranial capacity

no but I have read the theocrat 😎

Stalin was the best thing to ever happen to Russia

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I won't because you're right

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We had a discussion about this among the mods, for the sake of consistency it has to be deleted

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Understandable

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