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2018-12-10 00:49:19 UTC

in my opinion

2018-12-10 00:50:06 UTC

Also, there isn't anything "nihilistic" about my belief system. I have never once argued that life was meaningless. I have argued that biology itself will force you to have a meaning, and anyone who does not embrace it will usually not survive or reproduce

2018-12-10 00:50:06 UTC

well, knowledge does greatly influence it, but the appropriate neurobiology being absent, knowledge will not yield us morality

2018-12-10 00:50:21 UTC

so its not the primary item

2018-12-10 00:50:26 UTC

its a major factor though

2018-12-10 00:50:55 UTC

Why not?

2018-12-10 00:51:07 UTC

it's defined by what is best for the group, is it not?

2018-12-10 00:51:25 UTC

Intelligence and Wisdom are two different attributes <:30yoboomer:521380551316209668>

2018-12-10 00:51:57 UTC

Doesn't really contradict what I said, I was combining them into one

2018-12-10 00:52:04 UTC

anyway

2018-12-10 00:52:09 UTC

the way I would say it

2018-12-10 00:52:25 UTC

biology gives us a foundation of morality, we build on top of it with what we know or what we perceive to be the truth

2018-12-10 00:52:31 UTC

2018-12-10 00:52:34 UTC

well yes

2018-12-10 00:52:40 UTC

I can agree with that latest summation

2018-12-10 00:52:53 UTC

biology serves as the necessary foundation, but from there information complexity begins to take the leading role

2018-12-10 00:53:00 UTC

I spot a double space. <:ree:520000441036046336>

2018-12-10 00:53:07 UTC

lol

2018-12-10 00:54:52 UTC

french police have stormed the oil depot

2018-12-10 00:54:59 UTC

and firefights are working on putting it out

2018-12-10 00:55:00 UTC

@Ventruvi post news links

2018-12-10 00:55:09 UTC

no news site's covered it yet

2018-12-10 00:55:13 UTC

oof

2018-12-10 00:55:35 UTC

just one greek lad's stitching together all the posts he can find

2018-12-10 00:55:39 UTC

and i think he's on scene too

2018-12-10 00:55:58 UTC

I'm Brazilian btw, Ventruvi. And this is my most recent Political Compass result <:30yoboomer:521380551316209668>

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/521490226774802432/Poc_09-12-18.png

2018-12-10 00:56:17 UTC

<:ree:520000441036046336> commie

2018-12-10 00:56:26 UTC

tfw in the ML quadrant

2018-12-10 00:56:36 UTC

I'm not a communist lol

2018-12-10 00:56:41 UTC

but you should be

2018-12-10 00:56:43 UTC

who'd you vote for in the election

2018-12-10 00:56:43 UTC

embrace it

2018-12-10 00:56:51 UTC

Bolsonaro @Ventruvi

2018-12-10 00:57:00 UTC

Bolsonaro is horrendous ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

2018-12-10 00:57:02 UTC

good lord

2018-12-10 00:57:12 UTC

commie

2018-12-10 00:57:14 UTC

Communism is our eternal enemy

2018-12-10 00:57:15 UTC

<:ree:520000441036046336>

2018-12-10 00:57:18 UTC

Communism will win

2018-12-10 00:57:22 UTC

oh wait

2018-12-10 00:57:22 UTC

Silly immoral untermensch

2018-12-10 00:57:33 UTC

@Xinyue neo-liberalism will probably win at this rate

2018-12-10 00:57:34 UTC

sadly

2018-12-10 00:57:35 UTC

silly brazilians with the odd party names

2018-12-10 00:57:42 UTC

> untermensch

more like รœBERMENCH

ha!

ha-ha

ok I'll show myself out

2018-12-10 00:57:45 UTC

you aight i guess

2018-12-10 00:58:05 UTC

@The Big Oof unfortunate, but true. global capitalism is set to dominate

2018-12-10 00:58:21 UTC

we must team up together, no more brother wars

2018-12-10 00:58:23 UTC

faashbol gang

2018-12-10 00:58:38 UTC

and with automation and entrance of administrative as well as military AI, I fear that its consolidation will this time be permanent

2018-12-10 00:58:44 UTC

> fashbol

ooh

2018-12-10 00:59:04 UTC

i want my country back

2018-12-10 00:59:18 UTC

i want men to act like men too

2018-12-10 00:59:27 UTC

Abominable Intelligence is not allowed

2018-12-10 00:59:27 UTC

tbh Mosleyite philosophy tends to fall into what I call "Left-Fascism", its something I might be able to tolerate

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/521491103141199872/1024px-Flag_of_the_British_Union_of_Fascists.svg.png

2018-12-10 00:59:50 UTC

@Xinyue Would you consider Peronism to be "left-fascism"?

2018-12-10 00:59:52 UTC

it kind of sort of was

2018-12-10 01:00:00 UTC

He was not <:redpill:520001018348437524> on the woman question

2018-12-10 01:00:06 UTC

unfortunately

2018-12-10 01:00:07 UTC

i was libertarian four years ago

2018-12-10 01:00:10 UTC

Wasnโ€™t Peron a literal Freemason

2018-12-10 01:00:12 UTC

i've drifted up though

2018-12-10 01:00:13 UTC

alot

2018-12-10 01:00:41 UTC

@The Big Oof hmmm I'm not well acquainted with that particular ideology but it sounds like I should be. Does it have connection to Falangism, by chance? No?

2018-12-10 01:00:47 UTC

I made this some time ago

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/521491435908759563/all-in.png

2018-12-10 01:01:10 UTC

No, but it was influenced by Italian fascism. Peron was the dictator of Argentina during the earlier days of the cold war @Xinyue

2018-12-10 01:01:29 UTC

I archived my results ever since I joined political discussions

2018-12-10 01:01:30 UTC

ah, I see

2018-12-10 01:01:38 UTC

he called himself third position and embraced the economics of fascism, but he also gave women the right to participate in elections

2018-12-10 01:02:09 UTC

i ain't been archiving sadly

2018-12-10 01:02:38 UTC

i can remember my past charts tho

2018-12-10 01:02:42 UTC

hmmmm. see, I think that Left-Fascism would be defined by embracing economic position more closely associated with the traditional left. In general I see left-right dichotomy *strictly* in property terms - with social property given primacy in left-wing ideologies, and private property given primacy in right-wing ideologies

2018-12-10 01:03:20 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/521492080896245760/unknown.png

2018-12-10 01:03:22 UTC

roughly like this

2018-12-10 01:03:33 UTC

i never was a big fan of the left

2018-12-10 01:05:26 UTC

Ok that's a lot of right, blue ones are pretty rare tbh. I don't even know how you can get that far.

2018-12-10 01:06:46 UTC

the left in canada pushed me

2018-12-10 01:07:00 UTC

I think you have to edgelord it to make it into either the top-left corner of red quadrant, or the top-right corner of the blue quadrant

2018-12-10 01:07:05 UTC

Oh, so you're a reactionary. Makes sense.

2018-12-10 01:07:14 UTC

also

2018-12-10 01:07:16 UTC

i'm anti-abortion anti-immigration anti-gay marriage and anti-LGBT

2018-12-10 01:07:22 UTC

most people call movements that aren't leftist, "leftist"

2018-12-10 01:07:27 UTC

So you're normal

2018-12-10 01:07:31 UTC

i guess

2018-12-10 01:07:37 UTC

the vast majority of political movements are centrist in nature

2018-12-10 01:07:45 UTC

"Leftist" tends to refer to neo-liberalis

2018-12-10 01:07:52 UTC

....

2018-12-10 01:07:53 UTC

i also hate trudeau with a passion

2018-12-10 01:07:53 UTC

but they are like

2018-12-10 01:07:55 UTC

anti-leftist

2018-12-10 01:07:56 UTC

lmao

2018-12-10 01:07:59 UTC

That's not what I meant

2018-12-10 01:08:04 UTC

I meant that's how people define Leftist

2018-12-10 01:08:12 UTC

Not that was what a leftist is

2018-12-10 01:08:14 UTC

that's utterly ridiculous though

2018-12-10 01:08:20 UTC

But that's what they think

2018-12-10 01:08:27 UTC

also apparently believing first generation immigrants cant fully integrate with society makes me right wing

2018-12-10 01:08:34 UTC

I would define Leftist as socialist and anything beyond that

2018-12-10 01:08:41 UTC

I mean I think its very hard to argue that Bernie Sanders is like a genuine leftist either

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