https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSX2o7EhtcE

being a conservative nationalist isn't "fascism"

so you still sound like a retard who can't define his ideology

is this a qt boi

fascism doesn't require respect for tradition nor a strong sense of nationalism

it's all about being a might faggot as i said

noice drop @Uksio

simply being edgy about it doesn't suddenly make it a new ideology

takes a bit too long to start

but neato

Again, this depends on context. In America, being a conservative nationalist alone isn't tantamount to fascism. That accusation would require placing American's interests above all overs, with a sense that our traditions are superior to any other culture.

Svar is correct

that is one of the strongest identifiers

Which, as I said before

simply makes it an edgier form of "technocracy"

muh republican AI friendly direct voting technocracy <:comfort:592107824826417204>

@Mersenne still wrong

not convinced that believing your traditions are superior to other cultures in inherent to fascism either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVgSuuUTwQ @Uksio the most languages in a song?

fascism is far more similar to communism than to anything else

Rather than argue the nuanced aspects, let's get straight to the meat of the point. Fascism in any country relies on an authoritarian ultranationalist under a dictatorship, with demonstrable examples of suppressing it's opposition, while imposing a strong regimentation of society and the economy.

ye eccless

Half of that is the means, not the end

so no

It's all about putting "strong men" at the top

correct, mersenne

and giving them mastery over their underlings

which

again

Communism is pretty damn similar in the requirement for an authoritarian government to implement policies, while suppressing opposing viewpoints, and literally regimenting the social and economic functions of a nation.

is just an edgier form of technocracy

furtherment of the state itself

Fascism: society needs to value strong men by giving strong men all the power

Technocracy: the most competent in an area should be in charge

Almost identical

It just has a different culture and nostalgic feeling it goes for in the case of fascism

but the goal is pretty similar

what's the goal of a capitalist nation?

what is the goal of technocracy?

freedom

capitalism isnt an ideology

it's freedom

it doesn't try to *do* something

good answer i hate how ppl use capitalism as their *moral* system

While the end state is similar, the prerequisites are not. In a technocracy, leaders are selected based upon their expertise. In a fascist government, only a dictatorship is required - with ideological precepts that follow.

Hopefully it’s for Americans to drown in their cash and become extinct

@Mersenne the means to achieve are different from the ends

and the ends define the ideology more than the means

Any man who does not stand for this nation will be shit dead. 💪

Odd sentiment from someone who sucks on the London teet, PeP

so, most people are fine at their elementary school pledges of allegiance @Son of Rome ?

lmao?

They would be, if it wasn't America

@PureEvilPie what do you have against us lol?

do you have 12 hours to spare arguing over the definition of fascism @Son of Rome

;P

So, i've got the telecoms engineers coming out tomorrow cos my internet was dropping out because of the heavy winds. The winds stopped this PM and so did the dropouts. What's the betting the engineers are going to be garbage tier and do nothing, leaving my internet to go down again as soon as the wind blows?

@svarozhyc do you have 6 hours to spare of me making blanket statements and calling you ignorant when you cba to prove me wrong?

it's a certainty eccles

Arrogance

I bet you dont even know what a republic is, define republic for me

@PureEvilPie *earned*

That's what I thought. Rebuked and refuted

very well-earned mind you

Not by you

perhaps i do 😄

@PureEvilPie - Why would you admonish an economic system that has accelerated mankind's prosperity and lifted global populations out of abject poverty faster than any other system in the history of mankind?

Earned by your ancestors

not tonite lol gotta read muh book

yessir

and it transfers to their descendents

No it doesn’t

to a degree

yes it does

You earn your own praise and respect

He's got a point, AMericans, current americans, particularly young americans, are garbage tier

Respect isn’t inherited

ANd the voting plays that out

both accomplishments and guilt are inherited

No

the sins of the father are the sins of the son

OUR ANCESTORS = OUR BLOOD

Neither of them are

UK is similar

likewise, their accomplishments

WE ARE OUR ANCESTORS

You have your own achievements and your own failures

yes

but you *also* inherit a degree from your ancestors

Negro, *you're shouting again*

I'M BRIAN, AND SO IS MY WIFE!

Just because your grandfather was a great man doesn’t make you one

If you need to chimp out, take it to <#678531385123667998>

It certainly helps

No

That is weak thinking

And is why the world hates you

So having a shit or great father has no effect on how I'm raised...?

funny logic...

Leaked pic of cooltic on fascism