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2019-10-28 09:56:03 UTC

remember the higgs boson

2019-10-28 09:56:07 UTC

it could have landed anywhere

2019-10-28 09:56:15 UTC

in our universe thats the angle it landed at

2019-10-28 09:56:39 UTC

weird.

2019-10-28 09:56:47 UTC

yeah its fantastically beautiful

2019-10-28 09:57:06 UTC

they talk about pre-higgs we had a false vacuum meta-stable with a mexican hat potential

2019-10-28 09:57:10 UTC

let me find a graph

2019-10-28 09:57:33 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638315412592918541/jOJyeddGbWFBtqZo4nUxpdysSWIA12Ycr5yMVQfNsgc.png

2019-10-28 09:57:40 UTC

basically the ball started at top

2019-10-28 09:57:45 UTC

it could fall anywhere in the ring at the bottom

2019-10-28 09:58:00 UTC

in our universe symmetry broke at this angle

2019-10-28 09:58:14 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638315583980699668/lightisconsciousness_39298432_476046289536843_3079300292043341824_n.jpg

2019-10-28 09:58:15 UTC

i should also mention the angle you get is really a function of the units

2019-10-28 09:58:25 UTC

too deep 4 me lol

2019-10-28 09:58:27 UTC

you can use different units for X and Y to make higgs 45 degrees if you really want

2019-10-28 09:58:40 UTC

surely you can see that the circle at that mexican hat potential

2019-10-28 09:58:47 UTC

represents where the higgs is

2019-10-28 09:58:50 UTC

from there you get an angle

2019-10-28 09:59:14 UTC

Fuguer you need to do an episode with Papa
About big brain physics

2019-10-28 09:59:18 UTC

yeah i get how the mexican hat works, it's just not super intuitive. that's all lol

2019-10-28 09:59:55 UTC

I am really better at writing than speaking, sometimes i feel like im trying to squeeze too much thought through a tiny hole to talk

2019-10-28 10:00:00 UTC

especially about complex stuff like this

2019-10-28 10:00:21 UTC

the tiny hole is my brain hole. it's tough to fit things in there.

2019-10-28 10:00:25 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638316131349692431/lightisconsciousness_40466416_300396924089668_1815766530407792640_n.jpg

2019-10-28 10:00:32 UTC

so back to that graph

2019-10-28 10:00:52 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638316247083384832/1920px-Electroweak.svg_1.png

2019-10-28 10:01:16 UTC

u = up quark, d = down quark. e = electron, v = neutrino

2019-10-28 10:01:34 UTC

W+/-, and Z are the weak bosons

2019-10-28 10:01:39 UTC

y = photon

2019-10-28 10:01:39 UTC

yeah and r/l is spin right?

2019-10-28 10:02:03 UTC

it is the spin really yes

2019-10-28 10:02:20 UTC

and what we see is fascinating

2019-10-28 10:02:29 UTC

left and right handed spinning versions of the particles dont behave the same

2019-10-28 10:02:35 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638316679277051914/lightisconsciousness_26243684_121161008691929_6372375284095647744_n.mp4

2019-10-28 10:02:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638316710289473566/1920px-Electroweak.svg_1.png

2019-10-28 10:03:12 UTC

see that right handed electrons dont interact with weak force

2019-10-28 10:03:32 UTC

i.e. e(r) sits right on the 0 of the x-axis

2019-10-28 10:03:53 UTC

if a particle has a line over it, thats the antimatter version of the particle

2019-10-28 10:03:59 UTC

so theres 4 different electrons.

2019-10-28 10:04:00 UTC

i with you so far.

2019-10-28 10:04:05 UTC

left handed and right handed electron

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and left handed and right handed positron

2019-10-28 10:04:22 UTC

notice how the DISTANCE between every particle

2019-10-28 10:04:31 UTC

is represented by a force carrier vector

2019-10-28 10:04:53 UTC

i.e. if you take a down quark and add W to it, you get an up quark

2019-10-28 10:05:27 UTC

ok i'm starting to get a bit lost now. lol

2019-10-28 10:05:51 UTC

oh yeah i get you

2019-10-28 10:05:56 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638317522206064642/unknown.png

2019-10-28 10:06:45 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638317728557432832/unknown.png

2019-10-28 10:06:54 UTC

left and right handed particles are connected by higgs interactions

2019-10-28 10:07:24 UTC

higgs is the center line

2019-10-28 10:07:27 UTC

oh that's pretty cool

2019-10-28 10:07:36 UTC

yes this is fantastic image

2019-10-28 10:08:01 UTC

so, when a left handed down quark interacts with higgs field, it becomes right handed down quark

2019-10-28 10:08:05 UTC

and etc for all the other particles

2019-10-28 10:08:16 UTC

so this BREAKS a symmetry

2019-10-28 10:08:19 UTC

the higgs field is infinite

2019-10-28 10:08:31 UTC

so all these particles can jump around on the X and Y axis

2019-10-28 10:08:39 UTC

so the stable dimension that remains

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is perpendicular, the electric charge

2019-10-28 10:08:51 UTC

thats preserved after higgs interactions

2019-10-28 10:09:19 UTC

epic

2019-10-28 10:09:24 UTC

this is why we say the higgs is responsible for electroweak symmetry breaking

2019-10-28 10:09:31 UTC

and now you basically understand how it works

2019-10-28 10:10:08 UTC

if i ever get past undergrad physics, i'm coming to you for questions i have. lmao

2019-10-28 10:10:19 UTC

The only things this chart leaves out are like.... really theres 3 generations of matter, so pretend its superimposed on another dimension for flavor.

2019-10-28 10:10:32 UTC

you've heard of electron, muon, and tau right

2019-10-28 10:10:36 UTC

yeah

2019-10-28 10:10:49 UTC

similarly for quarks, its up/down, charm/strange, and top/bottom

2019-10-28 10:11:22 UTC

and this chart completely leaves out gluons, the force carriers of the strong force

2019-10-28 10:11:34 UTC

but there's no way we can show all that in 2d

2019-10-28 10:11:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638319037180542987/1200px-Georgi-Glashow_charges.svg.png

2019-10-28 10:12:04 UTC

if we tried, it would look something like this

2019-10-28 10:12:22 UTC

this chart is rotated so that Q (electric charge) is vertical

2019-10-28 10:12:22 UTC

there's a lot of information in that.

2019-10-28 10:12:38 UTC

its the exact same chart from before, but it shows the 3 generations of matter

2019-10-28 10:12:47 UTC

yeah

2019-10-28 10:12:47 UTC

and for gluons/quarks the color

2019-10-28 10:13:00 UTC

this is a 2d projection of a higher dimensional chart

2019-10-28 10:13:06 UTC

you could spend hours trying to understand that without someone explaining it

2019-10-28 10:13:11 UTC

right

2019-10-28 10:13:51 UTC

thats why i mix how i learn, some classes, blogs, wikipedia, books

2019-10-28 10:14:12 UTC

anyway, i should be off, i am procrastinating. i have a computer science assignment due in 4 hours, and my team are all illiterate arabs so i have to carry them.

2019-10-28 10:14:21 UTC

thanks for the intermission. lol

2019-10-28 10:14:22 UTC

T3 is the third component of weak isospin

2019-10-28 10:14:28 UTC

np, thanks for understanding

2019-10-28 10:14:36 UTC

sometimes i feel its hard to explain this, glad it made sense

2019-10-28 10:15:20 UTC

you did well for sure. especially in so few words. but i have some small history with physics, so it might be harder for people without any physics background at all.

2019-10-28 10:15:30 UTC

the chart shows some fascinating stuff too

2019-10-28 10:15:39 UTC

like we still dont know if neutrinos are their own antiparticle or not

2019-10-28 10:16:11 UTC

which comes down to if they're majorana or goldstone bosons

2019-10-28 10:16:54 UTC

neutrinos are the most recent case where we had to amend the standard model just a few years ago. we thought they were massless and proved thats not the case

2019-10-28 10:17:13 UTC

their mass is so small that its actually not even definite, i.e. it doesnt commute with their flavor

2019-10-28 10:17:51 UTC

since neutrinos are always emitted with a definite flavor (electron usually), that means theyre emitted with a superposition of different masses

2019-10-28 10:18:48 UTC

existing as a superposition of masses means they travel at slightly different speeds and their wavefunction gets smeared out... the interference patterns changing can cause us to observe the neutrinos as a different flavor

2019-10-28 10:19:06 UTC

thats why we saw 1/3 of neutrinos emitted from the sun changing flavor

2019-10-28 10:20:24 UTC

you're like me i think. it helps you to talk about the issues to someone else to better understand them yourself. lol

i'll be back in a few hours and can get more involved.

2019-10-28 10:21:15 UTC

yeah explaining things helps you remember them and also put them in different contexts and understand them better

2019-10-28 10:37:48 UTC

fuggg

2019-10-28 10:38:51 UTC

what is the appropraite channel to talk about the Fuentes Politicon drama

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