extra-ecclesiam-nulla-salus

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2019-04-24 00:09:51 UTC

my trad uni chaplain thinks it really just more semantics once you get past all the theological definitions and in terms of spiritual life etc we believe the same

2019-04-24 00:09:53 UTC

It really is just a semantic split.

2019-04-24 00:11:57 UTC

Photius of Constantinople, in 810, decided that the addition of the filioque constituted the creation of an alternate creed, and thus, a different religion. No one cared before then. Many a small local council (and a few big ones) had determined that it was just a cultural thing.

2019-04-24 00:58:33 UTC

The Filiqoue is basically an excuse to be schismatic

2019-04-24 00:58:44 UTC

The Eastern Churches in union with us don't have it either

2019-04-24 00:59:35 UTC

The entire schism was basically temporal politics

2019-04-24 00:59:42 UTC

Something that the EO still struggle with to this day

2019-04-24 00:59:47 UTC

Daily Mass Squad-- Gang Gang

2019-04-24 00:59:54 UTC

See: ukranian-russia-constantinople schism

2019-04-24 01:01:11 UTC

Then Orthodox still have the choice between nation-orthodox

2019-04-24 01:01:20 UTC

i cant wrap my head around it

2019-04-24 01:02:27 UTC

some even have several national ones

2019-04-24 01:02:57 UTC

Near my city there's a "free Serbian" orthodox monastery, which is different to the "Serbian" orthodox Church in the city

2019-04-24 01:06:29 UTC

i dont get it at alll. #Catholic

2019-04-24 01:07:01 UTC

I mean, should boomer parishes be considered Catholic..?

2019-04-24 01:07:23 UTC

@Orrbit some part of me is wrong when I say I only acknowledge the Greek Orthodox as the Orthod Church.

2019-04-24 01:07:37 UTC

?

2019-04-24 01:07:43 UTC

@MawLr hopefully not

2019-04-24 01:08:12 UTC

Just in name

2019-04-24 01:08:25 UTC

We have this young secret trad priest who's been put in a Parish in the middle of the city and he's doing an amazing job

2019-04-24 01:08:40 UTC

I don't like it that there's only boomer parishes in my city

2019-04-24 01:08:51 UTC

God Bless Him

2019-04-24 01:09:04 UTC

@MawLr Country side?

2019-04-24 01:09:13 UTC

No, just a terrible country

2019-04-24 01:09:32 UTC

*generation

2019-04-24 01:09:43 UTC

The countryside is even worse because it's very deprived of resources

2019-04-24 01:09:58 UTC

That was my guess

2019-04-24 01:09:58 UTC

Parishes here base off money lol

2019-04-24 01:10:19 UTC

damn bishop backed and everything.

2019-04-24 01:10:37 UTC

I go to the one near my house, but it's run by a guy who had control over the last bishop

2019-04-24 01:10:48 UTC

FSSP?

2019-04-24 01:10:57 UTC

Yes, it's a wealthy parish because the people around are wealthy

2019-04-24 01:11:25 UTC

Er, I believe they're something else

2019-04-24 01:11:52 UTC

Diocesans or something like that

2019-04-24 01:12:18 UTC

@MawLr my guees is you done parish finder already

2019-04-24 01:12:22 UTC

I meant are there any FSSP parishes or something like that around the place

2019-04-24 01:12:36 UTC

Hm, haven't really checked

2019-04-24 01:13:01 UTC

what city are you near?

2019-04-24 01:13:12 UTC

I'm a spaniard living in mexico, lol

2019-04-24 01:13:29 UTC

@MawLroh dude your are fucked

2019-04-24 01:13:35 UTC

yes, yes I am

2019-04-24 01:13:36 UTC

ahhh

2019-04-24 01:13:47 UTC

apparently only 2 FSSP in the whole country

2019-04-24 01:14:04 UTC

theyre are all of mixture of novus ordo and bad replication spaniard tradition.

2019-04-24 01:14:20 UTC

Indeed, but it's mostly novus ordo

2019-04-24 01:14:29 UTC

Fssp>sspx

2019-04-24 01:14:36 UTC

yes

2019-04-24 01:14:39 UTC

Also I hate mexican syncretism

2019-04-24 01:14:44 UTC

I've been to latin rite mass though, an entire week in a seminary

2019-04-24 01:14:51 UTC

Its stupid and borderline pagan

2019-04-24 01:15:08 UTC

I hate it too

2019-04-24 01:15:17 UTC

There's a state where they mix the old aztec shit

2019-04-24 01:15:24 UTC

uh oh

2019-04-24 01:15:25 UTC

They have witches burning stuff outside the church

2019-04-24 01:15:26 UTC

It should be the second thinf wiped out after boomer novus ordo

2019-04-24 01:16:03 UTC

The priests also allow people to get into witchery and those pagan things, they don;t warn them at all

2019-04-24 01:16:10 UTC

well as my uni priest says all the boomer rubbish will die because the trads will out breed them

2019-04-24 01:16:21 UTC

Hopefully

2019-04-24 01:17:04 UTC

Well, only two FSSP churches are located in another state, gg

2019-04-24 01:17:10 UTC

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

2019-04-24 01:17:21 UTC

Haha lmao imagine going to fssp

2019-04-24 01:17:27 UTC

Just get a good bishop like pmao

2019-04-24 01:17:34 UTC

Imagine not having a good bishop

2019-04-24 01:17:37 UTC

you literally just said FSSP>SSPX

2019-04-24 01:17:37 UTC

i dont like that aztec weirdo voddo and im mexican

2019-04-24 01:17:45 UTC

that means FSSP better

2019-04-24 01:18:01 UTC

Imagine not having a good bishop and having solid liturgical practices within the diocese

2019-04-24 01:18:16 UTC

Institute of christ the king

2019-04-24 01:18:33 UTC

imagine having a bishop whose coat of arms is some indian style picture of the Virgin of Guadalupe

2019-04-24 01:18:34 UTC

only amswer to the pope no neck breathing from a bishop

2019-04-24 01:18:55 UTC

God, someone eradicate mexican indians already

2019-04-24 01:18:57 UTC

imagine going to mass at your local Cathedral and the Bishop says "Pray brothers and sisters that OUR sacrifice will be acceptable to God the Father almighty"

2019-04-24 01:19:27 UTC
2019-04-24 01:19:41 UTC

he is very wishy washy

2019-04-24 01:20:02 UTC

he'll come and do confirmations as per 1962 but also pulls stunts like that

2019-04-24 01:21:20 UTC

@LuxCo I reckon we're both white and can point out how ridiculous it is that novus ordo doesn't acknowledge the fact that mixing pagan stuff should be considered as heresy

2019-04-24 01:21:31 UTC

just to appeal to indians

2019-04-24 01:22:15 UTC

also, FSSPX seems to have more presence in mexico

2019-04-24 01:22:42 UTC

there's one in the state where I'll be attending university, _excellent_

2019-04-24 01:22:56 UTC

@MawLr White but Mexican american

2019-04-24 01:23:07 UTC

huh

2019-04-24 01:23:07 UTC

heresy indeed

2019-04-24 01:23:22 UTC

convince me why going to sspx isn't disobeying canon law

2019-04-24 01:23:31 UTC

well im white but I am hispanic

2019-04-24 01:23:38 UTC

boomer parishes break canon law changing mass as they see fit

2019-04-24 01:23:50 UTC

not saying you should go there

2019-04-24 01:24:11 UTC

yeah but if sspx sticks more to tradition it should automatically be considered better

2019-04-24 01:24:19 UTC

hmm, perhaps it is more justifiable in your situation

2019-04-24 01:24:20 UTC

@Orrbit its not and I cannot convince you because I forgot the argument at home

2019-04-24 01:24:34 UTC

yeah, I really don;t know that much

2019-04-24 01:24:43 UTC

I just don;t enjoy boomer priests/parishes

2019-04-24 01:24:48 UTC

me neither

2019-04-24 01:25:10 UTC

sounds like its pretty rough in mexico

2019-04-24 01:25:16 UTC

I forgot the name of the letter made by Ratzinger

2019-04-24 01:25:24 UTC

Summorum Pontificum?

2019-04-24 01:25:27 UTC

Worst thing I've heard was my local priest saying _it doesn't really matter if you don;t believe in Mary as long as you believe in the Lord_

2019-04-24 01:25:33 UTC

yiiikees

2019-04-24 01:25:50 UTC

meme, I took all seriousness away and wanted to laugh

2019-04-24 01:25:58 UTC

lol

2019-04-24 01:26:00 UTC

literally protestant

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