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2019-06-08 01:30:56 UTC

I'm also not too sure about this care puts people into bankruptcy so often.

My dad had a 30,000 bill. We obviously couldnt just pay that. We worked it down close to like 12 grand and went on a payment plan.

I realize not everyone can pay such things but maybe it wouldnt be 2000 a night in a hospital if hospitals had to compete and didnt have enormous regulation to deal with

2019-06-08 01:31:41 UTC

Also the VA is not held liable for malpractice, which is good from of a cost savings perspective, sucks as an incentive to provide high quality service

2019-06-08 01:31:42 UTC

Oh ya "Robert Reich-single payer would have greater economies of scale". In what way lol

2019-06-08 01:32:41 UTC

Also there are true insurance programs out there you can use and are cheaper

2019-06-08 01:33:00 UTC

Ya, if they cant keep the post office from hemorrhaging money and the single payer programs they already have from being inconsistent crap, how on earth would it work cheaper and more efficient

2019-06-08 01:34:25 UTC

I believe medicare for all is a means to hide the fact that medicare is failing and the politicans have ignored it to long. Basically reboot the system amd start again without taking credit for the failure

2019-06-08 01:34:25 UTC

๐Ÿ†™ | **Putz leveled up!**

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2019-06-08 01:35:54 UTC

I also think the blue states want it because they have commited to big retirement programs that include healthcare. Moving that obligation to the fed is a way to reduce their unfunded liabilities

2019-06-08 01:36:05 UTC

Its literally a bailout for california

2019-06-08 01:36:09 UTC

They just want votes because its the highest polled issue for election right now. They want it so they can take out Trump.

If he was smart he would authorize a beginning of repair for medicare and get on top of it before the election

2019-06-08 01:36:59 UTC

Just like hus is a bailout to the big cities, small communities have to deal with their own poor people, big cities get subsidized through hud

2019-06-08 01:37:20 UTC

Denver voted no on it because surprisingly

A. People didnt want more taxes

B. It wouldn't fund Abortions.

So they won't enact it at state level all over abortion and taxes...lol

2019-06-08 01:37:32 UTC

Trump won't repair it, he ran on universal healthcare

2019-06-08 01:37:43 UTC

Colorado was like nah dude. Vermont the same

2019-06-08 01:37:47 UTC

He just wants obamas name off it

2019-06-08 01:37:53 UTC

Yeah

2019-06-08 01:38:15 UTC

Even jake tapper was like "Bernie how in the world are you gonna pay for this".

2019-06-08 01:39:10 UTC

Trump focused his campaign on the issues ofย fair trade, eliminating theย national debt, and achievingย universal healthcareย as outlined in the campaign companion pieceย The America We Deserve, released in January 2000

2019-06-08 01:39:26 UTC

Its atleast 3.2 trillion per year which is more than total tax revenue so now you have to raise taxes on everyone and it's supposed to "save" 5 trillion over 10 years.

2019-06-08 01:39:54 UTC

2trillion in 10 years, not 5

2019-06-08 01:40:01 UTC

They can take the white house as long as we keep the senate and take the House back

2019-06-08 01:40:44 UTC

Im more interested in a balanced budget plan

2019-06-08 01:41:22 UTC

Which noone but rand paul is talking about

2019-06-08 01:41:22 UTC

Pakman saying it costs 1 trillion per year by cutting defense budget and levying payroll taxes and other taxes lol. A that number is assuming people agree to all that and that shit doesnt just happen over night

2019-06-08 01:41:33 UTC

Yeah, spending is out if control

2019-06-08 01:41:53 UTC

They are so interested in adding new programs, they can't even focis on paying for the current programs

2019-06-08 01:42:27 UTC

You cant pull 1t out of defense, lol

2019-06-08 01:43:48 UTC

And changing the entire system which will tank 6% of the economy which will put millions out of jobs and off healthcare to then put them on a system all so a bunch of so called "victims" at the bottom can afford basic care...lol. Well fuck bro, why the hell am I working then lol

2019-06-08 01:44:33 UTC

He was saying like cutting 200 to 300 billion which is still asinine because we have to be the defense for virtually all of Europe and our border allies lol

2019-06-08 01:45:13 UTC

and that's why i retired at 35, couldn't justify working any more, it's pointless

2019-06-08 01:45:30 UTC

The whole point of spending more than everyone is so that Russia and China wont fuck with us and if they did we could put an to sleep lol.

Yes we too could afford a bunch of programs if we werent the world's watchdog lol

2019-06-08 01:45:44 UTC

Good on ya

2019-06-08 02:17:25 UTC

You waited till you were 35!

2019-06-08 02:17:30 UTC

heh

2019-06-08 02:38:41 UTC

@grant
I litterally only heard of Young Rippa today.
@IDontHaveAIDSBro
The regulations _*ARE*_ necessary, but damn it'd be nice if someone OTHER that just Americans were paying as well. (Ya, about ยพ of what Americans are paying is for all that testing, and no, nobody else is because *"it already passed US FDA testing..."* ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜  and ๐Ÿ˜ ).
@Putz
Glance up a bit for your Mexico answer.

2019-06-08 02:40:42 UTC

mexico answer?

2019-06-08 02:41:37 UTC

Well, not all that regulation is necessary. I agree it cant just be a free for all but there has to be a way besides single payer to fix it

2019-06-08 02:42:43 UTC

That regulation is 75% safety, 2ร˜% efficacy testing, do yes, at least 95% is needed.
And nobody (least if all me) said "free." Fuck. That. Shit.

2019-06-08 02:44:41 UTC

Well, I'm in the food industry and while I'm not an expert and they arent analogous industries I can say that a lot of safety regulation is bloated.

2019-06-08 02:45:23 UTC

I didnt say you said it was free. I meant free for all as in no regulation and companies can do whatever they want

2019-06-08 02:49:37 UTC

Oh, derp.
My bad.

2019-06-08 02:50:04 UTC

challenge with government in all things is the same as a business, it's a monopoly in its market share and suffers all the same problems a monopolistic company does

2019-06-08 03:05:09 UTC

@grant That video about the BBC wasn't bad, its good people keep talking about those problems.

2019-06-08 03:13:34 UTC

@Mandatory Carry no worries just clearing it up

2019-06-08 04:26:56 UTC

Nothing beats Indian guys screaming at each other lol.

Fuck you you fucker fuck

2019-06-08 04:35:35 UTC

That fight happened on Martin luther king jr blvd

2019-06-08 04:36:30 UTC

Also they really only had three cops because one was a woman

2019-06-08 06:50:16 UTC

Hahah its not from Tim, but listening to him talk he said some people were defending Jim Sterling because he is apolitical.....

2019-06-08 06:58:10 UTC

And to think, her degree is in economics. ๐Ÿ˜’

2019-06-08 09:55:23 UTC

I'm Bernie and I want to legislate everything out of existence

2019-06-08 09:55:54 UTC

Fucking dude needs to get piped

2019-06-08 10:12:20 UTC

Lol

2019-06-08 10:13:17 UTC

He has no remorse about putting hard working people out of work in order to serve the lazy bottom dweller urchins of society. Fucking piece of shit

2019-06-08 10:17:53 UTC

Alzheimer's cant come soon enough before he fucks this country into oblivion

2019-06-08 10:23:58 UTC

Good point

2019-06-08 13:18:09 UTC

It kicks in at 1:30 and I promise it is worth the wait

2019-06-08 15:00:15 UTC

@Legalize
Ya... Then he'd eventually shut up and die.

2019-06-08 18:03:43 UTC

10/10 video right there

2019-06-08 18:04:47 UTC

also, earlier we were talking about Owen Benjamin bringing up Sven and Jared
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-1jq76IGMw

2019-06-08 18:04:59 UTC

only the first couple of minutes are relevant

2019-06-08 18:18:14 UTC

Interesting

2019-06-08 18:22:16 UTC

Still not sure how much this works as "evidence" for what Owen is saying, on top of the fact that he was either lying in the past (when he said Crowder was a great guy that he would die for) or is lying now, neither of which sit well with me

2019-06-08 18:22:53 UTC

Oh yeah that's not evidence to me

2019-06-08 18:24:15 UTC

Given that owen has been isolating himself criticism I'm less inclined to believe him. Also he copystruck another youtuber who critisized him and his excuse was he thought it was funny

2019-06-08 18:25:43 UTC

It also wouldn't surprise me though if sven got the raw end of some business deal, but that separate from how i see owen

2019-06-08 18:25:46 UTC

sounds like own is spiraling lower and lower

2019-06-08 18:28:03 UTC

Yeah, what happened with Sven and (to a lesser extent in my eyes) Jared is suspect, but I don't think I'm going to take the word of someone who supposedly sat on that information while calling Steven great and is just now coming out with it

2019-06-08 18:28:04 UTC

๐Ÿ†™ | **Draco552 leveled up!**

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2019-06-08 18:28:07 UTC

This sounds like Owen has some mental problems.

2019-06-08 18:28:37 UTC

Then starts trying to joke about aids in Africa. I feel like this guy is just a giant asshole

2019-06-08 18:29:10 UTC

What happened with Sven and Jared. I'm new to this

2019-06-08 18:29:44 UTC

I'm not familiar with if something happened with Jared

2019-06-08 18:30:07 UTC

Sven's work visa expired and he was sent back to Germany, and Jared purportedly left the show to be at home with his wife while they have a kid

2019-06-08 18:30:40 UTC

The only reasonable thing that Owen brings up is that when you're having a kid you don't leave a paying job

2019-06-08 18:31:02 UTC

if you don't have something else lined up

2019-06-08 18:31:14 UTC

The ways they departed the show were very different though. Sven was just gone so it does seem like there could be bad blood, but Jared departure was announced and he seemed like he was leaving on his terms

2019-06-08 18:31:55 UTC

It is really murky and requires rolls upon rolls of tinfoil tbh

2019-06-08 18:32:48 UTC

Interesting

2019-06-08 18:33:00 UTC

Yeah there was a huge bit when Jared left

2019-06-08 18:33:23 UTC

It was an emotional episode for a lot of fans

2019-06-08 18:42:11 UTC

Jared did have something else lined up though, he was working directly for CRTV as a producer after.

2019-06-08 18:43:01 UTC

He talked about it on Twitter, he was producing a comedy show that CRTV put together.

2019-06-08 18:43:50 UTC

he was? I stand corrected then, thanks

2019-06-08 18:50:50 UTC

Sound like He got a job offer and crowder probably couldn't match the offer. Good for him if true.

2019-06-08 18:51:17 UTC

I suspect not traveling as much was a big perk

2019-06-08 18:55:19 UTC

Meanwhile

2019-06-08 18:55:36 UTC

In more relevant news lol

2019-06-08 19:03:03 UTC

Vox is known for this shit. They did this to techtubers when their subsidiary site The Verge did a terribly stupid PC build guide where they got everything wrong and people made fun of them. They copyright striked a handful of of them and said the videos were harrassment and racially motivated

2019-06-08 19:03:09 UTC

Fucking scumlords

2019-06-08 19:05:13 UTC

Well damn.

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