Oooh. I do want a log cabin.

LOl bug zapper.

I liked Aydin Paladin's video where she talked about divorce rates and predicting factors.

You could date a Mennonite girl. Get all the denim you could ever want. Lol

Hahahaha

FREE DENIM

Didn’t see that video. Is it good?

It's really good.

I think it was more about how porn is bad.

Aydin is a lowkey christian. I know it.

Deep down the conversion is real.

I agree that porn is bad for people. I’m not talking about nude people in video games (it’s hilarious as far as I’m concerned). I’m talking looking up stuff to masturbate too. It affects people’s emotional state. Dangerous stuff.

Do you really think she’s Christian? She always goes on about Norse mythology stuff. I assumed it was a joke and that she’s really agnostic or something.

Nah, she's really into the Norse thing. I thought it was a meme at first too. But I don't see that lasting.

I think she's low-key totally on board with Christian values though.

All this political stuff is putting her on that side.

Oh. For real? Wonder why.

Probably so. She does seem to have some conservative values.

The political turmoil may actually cause a revival in Christianity. That would be cool.

I think it will.

I think given time, that Christianity will reflourish in the US, and we'll see a time of expansion of western values.

I don't know how long that will last.

I think it may be brief but strong though.

Yeah. The strength of it depends on the theology preached. Bad theology kills churches.

I think that's true as well. idk, I hope that Christianity sees a second look at the "Faith alone will save you" doctrine. Because it doesn't work, and it's not entirely accurate. And I think that's what drove so many away in the 80s and 90s.

Almost every mainstream comedian ripped on it for years.

Really? Interesting. I’ll have to look into that.

100%. Even earlier than the 80s I'd say. Look at people like Charles Templeton and the Burned Over district.

Well, James chapter 2 basically annihilates the doctrine of being saved by faith alone.

Like blows it out of the water.

Plus, a bunch of televangelists ruined it. Joel olsteen has bad theology.

yo, re: attractiveness shit, Roald Dahl has you covered

“If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.

A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.”

Roald Dahl was a wise man with bad luck.

And Dyslexia.

Well kind of. Faith is dead without works. Having faith sparks the desire to do deeds. The works themself don’t save, but works are necessary to maintain faith. People are saved by faith, but works keep the faith alive.

I think that faith isn't enough. The bible is replete with messages that repentance is necessary to overcome sin. Christ made that repentance possible through the atonement. Faith may get you started to take steps, but it's not the destination, it's the starting line.

The problem with Christianity is that so much of it has been awash in laziness. I don't think we need the psychotic zeal of some denominations. But that happy balance, of trying to overcome our weaknesses, making amends when we goof, and then trying again.

Ironically, which is the root of protestant denominations is the idea that we have to actually do stuff.

I said about the same thing. Faith is what saves you, but works keeps the faith alive. It is a process.

So would you consider Repentance a form of 'works'?

Some denominations are lazier. That’s true. The larger a church gets, the harder it is to get more involved.

I’m going to a Presbyterian PCa Church now. Pretty good so far.

Nice, I'm going to a PCA as well.

Repentance is definitely a form of works.

If not one of the biggest forms of works.

I wouldn’t consider repentance to be a form of works. Repentance requires faith

ah okay, I guess I've always a more "ceremonial" view of works. Like public prayers, charity work, that sort of stuff.

@Latigo Smith cool

Like, evidential actions.

Repentence by definition requires a change of heart, a change of actions. You can't just faith your way through it.

The word repentence comes from penance, to pay the price for sin. To feel bad about what you've done and do better.

Old testament was the more ceremonial form of repentance, because Christ hadn't come and performed the atonement yet. The old testament is literally translated "The old covenant". The old promise to god. The New Testament is the new Covenant. Christ doesn't expect anymore wearing of Sackcloth and ashes. Or ritualistic ceremonies.

Proverbs says 13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

To forsake is to turn away from and never do again (at least as best you can).

Yeah. But I don’t really think repentance counts as a work, at least in achieving salvation

How so?

Repentence isn't the only work we need to do, but it definitely isn't *not* a work.

Unless your definition of a work is purely service to others.

Which is also important.

I've heard that before.

I’ll have to get back to you on that. What constitutes as a work is important for understanding the nature of how salvation is achieved.

I don't think it's a debate. For the most part we see eye to eye on this one.

It's more like a minor difference in terminology at this point.

Hey, I'm a Presbyterian, we've been doing this for 500 years!

Yeah. For the most part that’s it.

No debate, friendly discussion.

You guys are good people

10/10 would not catapult

Aw. No catapult for you either.

Thanks man.

Lol

I don't have enough brainpower to engage, still buzzed from my can of celebratory beer in honor of Justice Kavanaugh

wp dude

I'm hyped on Kavanaugh's confirmation

Someone said this is like the first time in 50 years where the Supreme court isn't majority liberal

I should have Page one of Beauty and The Beta finished tomorrow.

It's been a slow burn.

The good thing about all of this circus right now is we can be pretty confident that Kavanaugh doesn't have any skeletons in his closet that might cause him to be turned (ala Roberts)

Sweet

There’s a male feminist in this bar and I am tempted to ask him if he’s having a beer for Kavanaugh.

I'd ask him if he saw that roundhouse kick to the pro life lady.

Lol

I'm sure he'll probably stick his tongue out for justice.

If he talks to me I’ll ask him

Be careful. You never know how unhinged this guy may get.

I’ve got handcuffs on me

?

I used to be a cop

Oh. Cool.

Be more cautious of his kiss.

It’s habit to carry them

Lol

Shudder. 🤢

I’ve gotten literal shit in my mouth so I’m not overly worried.

Gross.

Yeah

Just a bit

Just a tad

It’s a fun story

Cool. I have a me too story that’s a lot like ford’s but it actually happened. Lol