Repentence by definition requires a change of heart, a change of actions. You can't just faith your way through it.

The word repentence comes from penance, to pay the price for sin. To feel bad about what you've done and do better.

Old testament was the more ceremonial form of repentance, because Christ hadn't come and performed the atonement yet. The old testament is literally translated "The old covenant". The old promise to god. The New Testament is the new Covenant. Christ doesn't expect anymore wearing of Sackcloth and ashes. Or ritualistic ceremonies.

Proverbs says 13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

To forsake is to turn away from and never do again (at least as best you can).

Yeah. But I don’t really think repentance counts as a work, at least in achieving salvation

How so?

Repentence isn't the only work we need to do, but it definitely isn't *not* a work.

Unless your definition of a work is purely service to others.

Which is also important.

I've heard that before.

I’ll have to get back to you on that. What constitutes as a work is important for understanding the nature of how salvation is achieved.

I don't think it's a debate. For the most part we see eye to eye on this one.

It's more like a minor difference in terminology at this point.

Hey, I'm a Presbyterian, we've been doing this for 500 years!

Yeah. For the most part that’s it.

No debate, friendly discussion.

You guys are good people

10/10 would not catapult

Aw. No catapult for you either.

Thanks man.

Lol

I don't have enough brainpower to engage, still buzzed from my can of celebratory beer in honor of Justice Kavanaugh

wp dude

I'm hyped on Kavanaugh's confirmation

Someone said this is like the first time in 50 years where the Supreme court isn't majority liberal

I should have Page one of Beauty and The Beta finished tomorrow.

It's been a slow burn.

The good thing about all of this circus right now is we can be pretty confident that Kavanaugh doesn't have any skeletons in his closet that might cause him to be turned (ala Roberts)

Sweet

There’s a male feminist in this bar and I am tempted to ask him if he’s having a beer for Kavanaugh.

I'd ask him if he saw that roundhouse kick to the pro life lady.

Lol

I'm sure he'll probably stick his tongue out for justice.

If he talks to me I’ll ask him

Be careful. You never know how unhinged this guy may get.

I’ve got handcuffs on me

?

I used to be a cop

Oh. Cool.

Be more cautious of his kiss.