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Please listen to me Mongolite
```I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not```
What do you make of this
I take it as that Jews follow satan.
Simple as.
I see it as people who profess to be Jews but are commiting blasphemy and thus are not actually Jews, are someone else said, fake jews
In any case the Jews have betrayed Christians many times throughout history. Even going to the point of Genocide to get rid of us. To say that they do not deserve it back is simply foolish.
Now your drifiting back into ethnic lines
Lord granted covenant to the Gentiles, so by that no Jew is a good Jew, fake or not.
When i say Jews i am speaking of Religion.
NOT ethnicity, you dense mother fucker.
I just fail to see the logic here
Now, so as i was saying. During Hadrianโs rule in the Roman empire Jews had revolted with up to 1 million Jews. They killed any non-Jew upon which they found, Romans and Christians alike.
Upon Hadrian hearing the news he effectively banned Jews from Israel outright.
that was literally 1900 years ago
your literally holding a multi-millenium long grudge
And? The bible was completed over 1000 years ago.
To say that we cannot take from history is simply foolish to begin with.
I never said that, but that does not mean that there is going to be a Jewish revolt or that Jews are backstabbers or somthing like wth
Anyhow, even Publius had admitted that Jesus did nothing wrong to the offend the Roman Empire, and the only reason they put Jesus on the cross was due to Jews threatening a revolt.
the religious leaders were manipulating the mob.
Several Christian scholars have admitted that the Jews have offended the Christians on countless times.
You really don't understand what jesus was saying
You can say that, but you cannot practice it.
Also my bad, i meant to say Pontius Pilate, not Publius. Apologies.
The Pharisees did not โmanipulateโ the mob, they were already an existing (and popular) school of thought which many common Jews subscribed to. When Christ came in declaring himself to be the Messiah, the people looked upon him with disconcertion, especially the Zealots.
Iโd ask that you donโt use Wikipedia as a source, but you do speak the truth.
Iโm just using the most convenient reference; Iโll bounce off on a theological scholarโs site.
Alright. I get that because i use wikipedia a lot as well.
I really need to start reading some more but i have horrible dedication.
Again why are you holding literaly thousdand year grudges
Why does Israel carry thousand year grudges yet America constantly supports them in all endeavors?
Hmm, gee, now why would I come to hold a grudge against a people who consider charging interest relative to believer/non-believer as a religious tenent, or perhaps have a tight-knit genetic group, nearly bordering on incest, that's explaining for their increased susceptibility to diseases and ailments, or perhaps how Reform and Orthodox Jews represent prominent issues and are simply two sides of the same coin of their denomination?
Judaism goal is to undermine, this statement is the history of the past two thousand years.
Not to mention the fact that in the Talmud it says that goyims (non-Jews) are lesser than dogs.
What
what
read what they said nerd
I did
what do you want me to say exactly
Its pure collectivism
so?
they aren't our people so who cares if we lump innocents in too
Do you people really give a damn about what the oppositions thinks or no
I do a little
I want to opposition to come around to my way of thinking @Chief Rocket Designer
Remember that a majority of Immigrants from the Middle East are caused by Jewish started wars.
I member
I favor our kinship collectivism.
That's why we're here in <#587028275918929925>.
We're here to discuss issues, and we're serving to make a case on our own behalf.
The opposition will perish in their lies
^
Or join us
Because I see no reason to only care for "our people" since "our people" is an what we make it to be, if your genetic family left you on the side of the road for dirt and someone who was not in the slightest related to you adopted you are fed you (lets say you were a child) and sent you to school etc, who **in practice** would you say is your family? I am not saying you would not try and make contact with your genetic family or that is wrong, but at some level you must think that people who helped you are "your people" if your a normal person in the head of course.
@Deleted User Tell that to 1/2 of the people who give me 1 word responses
@Chief Rocket Designer exception isn't the rule
That totally happens.
I have made my statements; Mongolite's provided his side, and Ater just joined.
ffs I am sick of hearing that can we deal with my exception first then fucking move to the rule
Quit with the speculation and make a REAL argument.
@Chief Rocket Designer in such a case then the people who raised the individual are in the inner most yard. Regardless their nation is still their nation. Even if they were brought up within an entirely different folk, I guarantee you they would not feel 100% at home
I am not talking about nations
You cannot assume that a majority of people would have been abandoned by their Genetics parents.
ffs no shit
we've been talking about nations this whole time @Chief Rocket Designer
That is to imply if something like that did happen, it could be changed through regulation.
I am talking about our sense of "people"
Define people
I am getting there
@Chief Rocket Designer one's people is one's nation
@Deleted User *our people like the group of people we identify with as "our people"
@Chief Rocket Designer your people is the nation which you share customs, language and ethnicity with.
I disagree
That's just the way it is. Look around and you'll see this
few befriend utter foreigners
ok?
I can cite multiple research articles relating to identification with one's nation. Including those who were born in foreign countries that exhibited BOTH an identity with their current and birth country, that ultimately defined them.
Says nothing about the 2nd generation
@Chief Rocket Designer the 2nd generation will still share ties with their original homeland 9 times out of ten
Look at black people in the US. There are plenty of groups amongst them who wish for some kind of African revival.
What is wrong with ties?
what is it with right winges saying "look at x"
@Chief Rocket Designer it breaks up the unity of the country. Who knows when these ties will pull them back in mind or body. What's wrong with providing examples? that's what we're doing
Also I'm not right wing
@Chief Rocket Designer What is it with conservatives saying โDonโt look at xโ
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Ok here is the thing, what makes a country have unity? It is people thinking they have something in common, this can be genetics, it can also be what your favorite type of fruit is the seeking of unity can be achieved though people looking past there differences whatever those differences may be and though things people can unite around, I see no reason a nation can't be centered on an ideal such as a USA for unity instead of "well for the last few thousand years we only have had a society based on this genetic code"
What defines a countryโs unity is Nationalism. You cannot have unity without Nationalism.
Uh
I mean I think nationalism is more of a bi-product
And Nationalism is defined by one of two things, support for your nation or support for your race.
The US was founded on a nationalistic interpretation of the Constitution: the Jeffersonian-Republican model of government proved too bureacratic and dividing and almost plunged the Thirteen Colonies into anarchy.
^
@Chief Rocket Designer men can change their ideals, their offspring can reject them. These things can occur. But this cannot happen if it is based upon ethnicity. Of course stuff like nationalism, common culture and language add to the unity as well and should be there.
The Federalists decided upon a centralized government that ultimately vested power in the nation; nationalism was a key factor in this idea.
For the most part the Jews and Liberals have made ethnic europeans despise themselves. It is only with new generations can you see this hate fading.
@Chief Rocket Designer the US stopped working after they let in more non-whites and gave them equal rights.
Rest in peace, elstner
Humans can change there ideals yes and there offspring can reject them, but if you disagree with people of your ethnicity on everything except that it will not be strong enough to hold unity if the differences are great enough
@Chief Rocket Designer true. That would undermine unity quite a little. But that very rarely happens. If it does it is usually split between two sides. One side wins and the nation moves on. Say you base your country off a flawed system, and then it is proven to be so. The country would just break apart...it wouldn't last the changing of the tides
It would decend into the same type of warfare your society would
You could just adopt the method of government of what Spain did: unitary government with asymmetrical devolution.
if the warfare was a stalemate
then it was a stalemate
same thing
@Chief Rocket Designer what do you mean?
@Chief Rocket Designer What your talking about is the commercial revenue interests evolved to trump the interests of nation, tribe, clan and family.
Donโt even get me started on the absurdity of the globalist, postmodernist argument.
If you need to see an example of commercial revenue interests, see Monsanto and farmers in India.
With their seed products.
what
When dafaq did I even mention economics
I am saying that your family, your tribe and your clan should be based on more than your damn genetics
@Chief Rocket Designer what did you mean before
if you just said nationalism is the male reproductive strategy and globalism is the female (reproductive strategy then that would be the most reductive method of expressing the truth. And that nationalism in the current case is yes an instance of the male reproductive strategy.
What political ideology do you people even subscribe to?
@Deleted User British Fascism
Clerical Fascism.
I am saying that civil war will always either result in reunification or the non-existence of a state
@Chief Rocket Designer Well what are you?
@Leto Atreides II And you?
minarchism
@Ater Votum How does that claim on reproductive strategy make any sense
@Chief Rocket Designer it's possible that a civil war could lead to no state. But down the road things would re unify. Germany wouldn't have re unified if their whole concept of unity was based of ideas.
@Deleted User Libertarian with some limited SocDem policies
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Damn i was right
Libertarians really canโt have unification
@Chief Rocket Designer Well, revolutions are against the government to alter powers, civil wars between factions for control of power, and wars of secession means of separation.
Theyโre too busy sucking each other off about the โbig iglooโ.
big igloo?
what
@Deleted User Boogaloo
ah
Just another term for it is all
wth is that
@Chief Rocket Designer civil war
โBig Iglooโ sounds like a cool alternative name.
this is cancer
can we get back on subject
Mostly just reddit shit anyways
@Deleted User what ideology are you?
Fash prob
Fascist, definitely. Have not defined my exact manner of Fascism yet, whether it should be clerical or not, but certainly a Fascist.
You fit the bill for Clerical.
Collapse is cooler, boogaloo turned into boomer fud
^
@Chief Rocket Designer we weaponized the male reproductive and persuasive strategy, the Semites weaponized the female reproductive and persuasive strategy and produced a counter-revolution producing an intellectual vanguard.
It is a known fact of life that anyone outside of Fascists canโt meme
^
Maybe some Roman Republicans too
Part of the reason I'm fascist is for the memes
wth is that shit
Those Jews are alright
Where is the Roman statistics meme.
The one with military invasions.
fuuuuu-
cant find it
<:bruh:591181809493082113>
Anyways
can we get back to the conversation
New conversation breh
where were we
Explaining our beliefs
@Chief Rocket Designer it's possible that a civil war could lead to no state. But down the road things would re unify. Germany wouldn't have re unified if their whole concept of unity was based of ideas.
Anyhow why did you mates become fascist?
I used to be an ANCAP.
Like a hardcore ANCAP.
@Deleted User was a patriot and was looking for the best way to revive my country
Not a fascist, but i can argue for fascism being based.
@Ater Votum what are you?
Finally gained a sense, began reading some political novels, and ultimately found my calling in that belief.
@Deleted User They could have re-united under a civic nationalism model, since there cultures were similar, although some states in germany were VERY different culturally but whatever lets go with it
a belief you wouldn't know
just think right libertarian.
@Deleted User Iโve noticed that many Ancaps eventually become Fascists. Itโs likely due to them noticing the degeneracy that many of Ancaps follow.
@Chief Rocket Designer I don't think so. The culture of the HRE was radically different from the Kaiserreich
only if the reunification was soon after the seperation
ik
did i hear libright?
HRE was a political mess from its inception.
ofc
^
It formed out of the stilted remains of the Carolignians after the Vikings destroyed them.
Neither holy, nor roman, nor an empire
in essence it was gross
*Ubermensch can't making a working state
I used to be the same way. But as i started to notice how degenerate society had become a realized i needed to root for something strong and unified. I had previously touched on Fascist before, but not as much as i do now.
@Chief Rocket Designer point is that culture will change and then only genetics can re unify a no longer existent country. Like Italy
why is re-unification good?
unity.
why is that good ffs
So that nations can be banded together, and fight for a common moral good.
@Chief Rocket Designer because we're stronger together. There's no point having the same nation split up.
Im not gonna argue for that.
And against the Jews :DDDD
Would you rather have several city-state equivalents at eachotherโs throats like the Mayans?
Where there was a civil war that lasted *300* years.
'hey whats this war about dad?'
"idk lol"
@Deleted User even if there are two different cultures and two different political systems, they are stronger together?
The spark that catalyzed the war was a chieftain of a tribe sent over his daughter as a consort and they ended up skinning her and a priest wore her remains.
@Chief Rocket Designer depends how different the cultures and systems are.
but usually yes
a nation doesn't tend to come up with radically different systems and customs
Etruscans and Sardinians get along proper, and virtually similar, anyway.
@Chief Rocket Designer It mostly depends. If you combine unify a Fascist nation with a democratic nation then it isnโt gonna go well. But say Imperialist Japan with Fascist Germany, itโs a good mix.
Again why don't you want people of other ethnicities to be able to come in?
@Chief Rocket Designer because it won't last. They might be unified with us for a while (this would be hard to acomplish), but when that state collapses we'll inevitabley part ways. Also, most ethnicities are inferior to my own. So why would I want them?
Thereโs a popular psychology term:
โBirds of a feather, flock together.โ
Enkrum can you stop talking
No, Iโm dispelling your horseshit while you selectively filter my arguments.
the ben shapiro debate method
its effective but annoying af
More or less they just wanna migrate to white countries just to escape their shithole of a country and leech off other countries success. They don't care about your culture. Just look at the migrants. @Chief Rocket Designer
yes you are a very nationalist
Holy shit he left the server.
No way.
Did he?
What I said is real, though.
Nevermind Discord just rebooted.
@Chief Rocket Designer gonna respond?
Fucking ISP.
Local man absolutely pissed of by logos
I say we lay off eachother for now. I believe this discussion of this topicโs basically finished now.
Do it for another time.
yeah can't bother. one guy cant responded to all of our arguments.
also would like sleep.
sleep is for the weak
go to sleep faggots
@Ater Votum people who sleep should be bred out of the gene pool
Your retarded.
goodnight.
you're*
Welcome 2 hell
fuck these people
He's typing xDd wonder what he will say.
@Ater Votum those are people?
*Chief Rocket Designer is typing*
Cosplayers are weird but they're okay
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