@Deleted User *our people like the group of people we identify with as "our people"

@Chief Rocket Designer your people is the nation which you share customs, language and ethnicity with.

I disagree

That's just the way it is. Look around and you'll see this

few befriend utter foreigners

ok?

I can cite multiple research articles relating to identification with one's nation. Including those who were born in foreign countries that exhibited BOTH an identity with their current and birth country, that ultimately defined them.

Says nothing about the 2nd generation

@Chief Rocket Designer the 2nd generation will still share ties with their original homeland 9 times out of ten

Look at black people in the US. There are plenty of groups amongst them who wish for some kind of African revival.

What is wrong with ties?

what is it with right winges saying "look at x"

@Chief Rocket Designer it breaks up the unity of the country. Who knows when these ties will pull them back in mind or body. What's wrong with providing examples? that's what we're doing

Also I'm not right wing

@Chief Rocket Designer What is it with conservatives saying “Don’t look at x”

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Ok here is the thing, what makes a country have unity? It is people thinking they have something in common, this can be genetics, it can also be what your favorite type of fruit is the seeking of unity can be achieved though people looking past there differences whatever those differences may be and though things people can unite around, I see no reason a nation can't be centered on an ideal such as a USA for unity instead of "well for the last few thousand years we only have had a society based on this genetic code"

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What defines a country’s unity is Nationalism. You cannot have unity without Nationalism.

Uh

I mean I think nationalism is more of a bi-product

And Nationalism is defined by one of two things, support for your nation or support for your race.

The US was founded on a nationalistic interpretation of the Constitution: the Jeffersonian-Republican model of government proved too bureacratic and dividing and almost plunged the Thirteen Colonies into anarchy.

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@Chief Rocket Designer men can change their ideals, their offspring can reject them. These things can occur. But this cannot happen if it is based upon ethnicity. Of course stuff like nationalism, common culture and language add to the unity as well and should be there.

The Federalists decided upon a centralized government that ultimately vested power in the nation; nationalism was a key factor in this idea.

For the most part the Jews and Liberals have made ethnic europeans despise themselves. It is only with new generations can you see this hate fading.

@Chief Rocket Designer the US stopped working after they let in more non-whites and gave them equal rights.

Rest in peace, elstner

Humans can change there ideals yes and there offspring can reject them, but if you disagree with people of your ethnicity on everything except that it will not be strong enough to hold unity if the differences are great enough

@Chief Rocket Designer true. That would undermine unity quite a little. But that very rarely happens. If it does it is usually split between two sides. One side wins and the nation moves on. Say you base your country off a flawed system, and then it is proven to be so. The country would just break apart...it wouldn't last the changing of the tides

It would decend into the same type of warfare your society would

You could just adopt the method of government of what Spain did: unitary government with asymmetrical devolution.

if the warfare was a stalemate

then it was a stalemate

same thing

@Chief Rocket Designer what do you mean?

@Chief Rocket Designer What your talking about is the commercial revenue interests evolved to trump the interests of nation, tribe, clan and family.

Don’t even get me started on the absurdity of the globalist, postmodernist argument.

If you need to see an example of commercial revenue interests, see Monsanto and farmers in India.

With their seed products.