Message from @Deleted User

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2020-01-04 03:49:53 UTC  

Ok here is the thing, what makes a country have unity? It is people thinking they have something in common, this can be genetics, it can also be what your favorite type of fruit is the seeking of unity can be achieved though people looking past there differences whatever those differences may be and though things people can unite around, I see no reason a nation can't be centered on an ideal such as a USA for unity instead of "well for the last few thousand years we only have had a society based on this genetic code"

2020-01-04 03:50:59 UTC  

What defines a country’s unity is Nationalism. You cannot have unity without Nationalism.

2020-01-04 03:51:10 UTC  

Uh

2020-01-04 03:51:20 UTC  

I mean I think nationalism is more of a bi-product

2020-01-04 03:51:35 UTC  

And Nationalism is defined by one of two things, support for your nation or support for your race.

2020-01-04 03:52:00 UTC  

The US was founded on a nationalistic interpretation of the Constitution: the Jeffersonian-Republican model of government proved too bureacratic and dividing and almost plunged the Thirteen Colonies into anarchy.

2020-01-04 03:52:20 UTC  

^

2020-01-04 03:52:21 UTC  

@Chief Rocket Designer men can change their ideals, their offspring can reject them. These things can occur. But this cannot happen if it is based upon ethnicity. Of course stuff like nationalism, common culture and language add to the unity as well and should be there.

2020-01-04 03:52:55 UTC  

The Federalists decided upon a centralized government that ultimately vested power in the nation; nationalism was a key factor in this idea.

2020-01-04 03:53:16 UTC  

For the most part the Jews and Liberals have made ethnic europeans despise themselves. It is only with new generations can you see this hate fading.

2020-01-04 03:53:21 UTC  

@Chief Rocket Designer the US stopped working after they let in more non-whites and gave them equal rights.

2020-01-04 03:53:40 UTC  

Rest in peace, elstner

2020-01-04 03:53:47 UTC  

Humans can change there ideals yes and there offspring can reject them, but if you disagree with people of your ethnicity on everything except that it will not be strong enough to hold unity if the differences are great enough

2020-01-04 03:55:49 UTC  

@Chief Rocket Designer true. That would undermine unity quite a little. But that very rarely happens. If it does it is usually split between two sides. One side wins and the nation moves on. Say you base your country off a flawed system, and then it is proven to be so. The country would just break apart...it wouldn't last the changing of the tides

2020-01-04 03:56:28 UTC  

It would decend into the same type of warfare your society would

2020-01-04 03:56:31 UTC  

You could just adopt the method of government of what Spain did: unitary government with asymmetrical devolution.

2020-01-04 03:56:36 UTC  

if the warfare was a stalemate

2020-01-04 03:56:43 UTC  

then it was a stalemate

2020-01-04 03:56:45 UTC  

same thing

2020-01-04 03:56:59 UTC  

@Chief Rocket Designer what do you mean?

2020-01-04 03:57:19 UTC  

@Chief Rocket Designer What your talking about is the commercial revenue interests evolved to trump the interests of nation, tribe, clan and family.

2020-01-04 03:57:53 UTC  

Don’t even get me started on the absurdity of the globalist, postmodernist argument.

2020-01-04 03:58:07 UTC  

If you need to see an example of commercial revenue interests, see Monsanto and farmers in India.

2020-01-04 03:58:12 UTC  

With their seed products.

2020-01-04 03:58:19 UTC  

what

2020-01-04 03:59:04 UTC  

When dafaq did I even mention economics

2020-01-04 03:59:35 UTC  

I am saying that your family, your tribe and your clan should be based on more than your damn genetics

2020-01-04 03:59:59 UTC  

@Chief Rocket Designer what did you mean before

2020-01-04 04:00:17 UTC  

if you just said nationalism is the male reproductive strategy and globalism is the female (reproductive strategy then that would be the most reductive method of expressing the truth. And that nationalism in the current case is yes an instance of the male reproductive strategy.

2020-01-04 04:00:27 UTC  

What political ideology do you people even subscribe to?

2020-01-04 04:00:37 UTC  

@Deleted User British Fascism

2020-01-04 04:00:42 UTC  

Clerical Fascism.

2020-01-04 04:00:47 UTC  

I am saying that civil war will always either result in reunification or the non-existence of a state

2020-01-04 04:00:57 UTC  

@Chief Rocket Designer Well what are you?

2020-01-04 04:01:09 UTC  
2020-01-04 04:01:21 UTC  

minarchism

2020-01-04 04:01:32 UTC  

@Ater Votum How does that claim on reproductive strategy make any sense

2020-01-04 04:01:47 UTC  

@Chief Rocket Designer it's possible that a civil war could lead to no state. But down the road things would re unify. Germany wouldn't have re unified if their whole concept of unity was based of ideas.

2020-01-04 04:01:47 UTC  

@Deleted User Libertarian with some limited SocDem policies