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In order to have any sort of liberty or freedom you need order, tradition, and a virtuous people
Otherwise you don't have anything holding the country together
I believe that there must be strict authority, yes, but I believe in the right to free speech and the right to own a gun, just not to the point where the free speech is being able to subvert American and White Tradition that we see today.
I think that pedos and other sex offenders should be seriously punished.
I think that murderers should be killed.
Its something very close to what Hitler said in Mein Kampf. He wanted every German man to bear arms and to defend themselves.
And, I would like to add on to Shalopy's statement. I agree with him. Liberty, the way school children are taught, is not liberating. It may be liberating to your lust for comfort and self-leisure, but it is not liberating for your body, your people, and your country. One of the best things about Facism is that you are proud of your nation and your people, therefore, you would do anything to help the nation and its people, like instead of taking a nap on the couch, you would go and help water the plants for an old lady on your block.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEp3LlaxU9c An actual fascist, not a retarded edgelord talks about what fascism is.
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Shit tier memes
Oh wait, Wikitor is a nazbol, based and redpilled.
not memes
i was just saving them to download them on my phone and add them to my servers
anon add these emotes
l8r
dont fucking post them in <#587028275918929925>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tlFwTmTWMw Learn about your past, learn about your tradition, learn about your culture. Fight cultural Marxism with folk culture.
I'm not a doomsdayer like a lot of the left is, but I do feel like environmentalism is fundamentally a conservative topic (conserving the environment that helped foster and sustain your culture) and the right's (or at least the mainstream right's) trigger response to reject climate concern because the leftwing has adopted a misanthropic form of it is idiotic and shortsighted.
It's a big reason why I hate the American Republican party and when retards say *oh you're right wing you must be a republican lmao*
I agree ^
The right basically went the opposite way because they realized they agree on something and this is where mainstream conservative fail and expose themselves. They hate the topic of eco friendliness because its full of lefties, however the reason they do so is because it exposes how truly lefty they are themselves but dont want to admit to it, because they know trad and propagationalism are true and just, but they dont live up to it.
but yeah the left goes eco commie about it going vegan etc. and basically lowering the bar for humanities existence in theri eternal quet to be free form literally everything and anything, including morality
@Classy Also Id add to the poll "climate change is real regardless of what humans do"
But yeah generally a better reason to be eco, worry about climate, is because of local pollution
clean streets, trad streets, good streets
@Bogatyr Bogumir I added it, thanks.
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Itโs reached the point where politics isnโt a matter of โwhat do we believe inโ but rather โwhat does my opposition believe in.โ
@L0GAN It's true, and this is the fundamental issue with party politics. It's like LGBTQIAAP+-whatever-the-fuck: the more you single out a certain group of people for their ideas it necessitates having more groups for more types of people, these groups will start being defined by their differences primarily. Democrats are the "progressive" party, the "blue" party, and that definition overrides any individual ideological views within that party.
Like
The parties arenโt even left and right anymore
Itโs just who claims a side on an issue first
Either you need hundreds of individual parties to pick up everyone's ideology or you need zero parties. The alternative is having this heavily dichotomized political system like in the US.
My mother, who has been here for over four decades, saw that I was conservative and immediately and without any forethought meant that it was synonymous with Republicanโshe couldn't even conceptualize the idea of being conservative and NOT being Republican.
So whatever slight lean you might have instantly gets you swept up in the inferno of what the party that leans that direction believes.
*Oh, you lean left?* (pulls out card with talking points) *So you believe in abortion, feminism, gay rights, pro-union, you hate Christians and you want to open the borders, like the Democrat party, right?*
the issue is also that people do in fact think that way
i am left/ right
therefore i accept and fervently believe these things
there is a minority like us here that actualyl have self defined boundaries and align with a aprty based on overlap
rather than simple association
Yeah, and nobody even sees the flatness of the political "spectrum" in the mainstream US. It's more like a political string, where you are either dialed to on extreme -X or another +X. There is no Y axis at all, just normie "conservative" points and normie progressive ones.
I mean eventhe previous 2 axis model IMO is pretty damn inancurate
hell modern conservatives and liberals are really both the same
they are truly "left" in a more formal sense
its basically the left arguing with itself
as they both support enlightenment principles and are derived from them
ultimately they believe the same things but carry them to theri logical conclusion or assume thelogical conclusion to be, for the current day, too extreme however thats just conservative retardation
true conservatism should be in fact entrist
on the social scale
i call something propagationalism when it takes tradition and propagates it, adapting it to mdern material reality
hell imagine for example something as simple as clothes
the world for men runs on suites, so you take say an ethnic decoration and decorate some parts of the suite with this ethnic decoration. Or in fact change the cut of the suite entirely
this propagates tradition
architecture is another thing
There is actually a serious chat
This is very needed in most political discords.
sorry for the short input.
I agree, its very lacking and sually discussions are lacking in constructivity, and are just one view bashing the other
Question for every self labeled conservative, what exactly are you conserving?
money power and corruption
It's if
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โโฆIn a word, to sum up our system of keeping the governments of the goyim in Europe in check, we shall show our strength to one of them by terrorist attempts and to all, if we allow the possibility of a general rising against us, we shall respond with the guns of America or China or Japanโฆ.
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Israel is unironically a based state
They outsmartted and manipulated the world
Sneaky fucks aren't they
Subversion is the best tactic to get what you want
Pretty much yeah
Israel is a nationalist's wet dream
Then again, they are the most persecuted people in history, yet have been around the longest (so I'm told). Somehow they manage to gain control of their host nation and then are expelled
Everyone wants their nation to be as smart as Israel
@Deleted User In history, not in modern day
In modern day, Christians are statistically the most persecuted
I know, I was being sarcastic
Tho i believe this is because Christians went under a drastic change in doctrine after ww2
Becoming much more pacifist
Everything changed after ww2
Becoming good goyim
I think Jews are what scientists call *Toxoplasma gondii*
Christian view of Judaism was always against it until ww2
The Catholic Church led the change on viewing Judaism as an enemy religion to "chose people of God" or viewing them as brother-like
Big mistake
I read somewhere that the catholic church began it's downward spiral back in the 17 or 1800s (could be mistaken) after "the last real pope" died?
@Deleted User War with Iran is a When, not an If. It is in the interest of the military industrial complex and, most importantly, our GREATEST ALLY that we go to war with them.
@Deleted User cringe post
what did he post that was a "cringe" post?
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Israel is unironically a based state
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israel is an ethnostate
so?
they're still kikes
that is generally what we call a based state no?
fuck no
Black
a "based state" is an organic state based upon Truth
I posted that after you said "so"
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