@L0GAN It's true, and this is the fundamental issue with party politics. It's like LGBTQIAAP+-whatever-the-fuck: the more you single out a certain group of people for their ideas it necessitates having more groups for more types of people, these groups will start being defined by their differences primarily. Democrats are the "progressive" party, the "blue" party, and that definition overrides any individual ideological views within that party.

Like

The parties aren’t even left and right anymore

It’s just who claims a side on an issue first

Either you need hundreds of individual parties to pick up everyone's ideology or you need zero parties. The alternative is having this heavily dichotomized political system like in the US.

My mother, who has been here for over four decades, saw that I was conservative and immediately and without any forethought meant that it was synonymous with Republican—she couldn't even conceptualize the idea of being conservative and NOT being Republican.

So whatever slight lean you might have instantly gets you swept up in the inferno of what the party that leans that direction believes.

*Oh, you lean left?* (pulls out card with talking points) *So you believe in abortion, feminism, gay rights, pro-union, you hate Christians and you want to open the borders, like the Democrat party, right?*

the issue is also that people do in fact think that way

i am left/ right

therefore i accept and fervently believe these things

there is a minority like us here that actualyl have self defined boundaries and align with a aprty based on overlap

rather than simple association

Yeah, and nobody even sees the flatness of the political "spectrum" in the mainstream US. It's more like a political string, where you are either dialed to on extreme -X or another +X. There is no Y axis at all, just normie "conservative" points and normie progressive ones.

I mean eventhe previous 2 axis model IMO is pretty damn inancurate

hell modern conservatives and liberals are really both the same

they are truly "left" in a more formal sense

its basically the left arguing with itself

as they both support enlightenment principles and are derived from them

ultimately they believe the same things but carry them to theri logical conclusion or assume thelogical conclusion to be, for the current day, too extreme however thats just conservative retardation

true conservatism should be in fact entrist

on the social scale

i call something propagationalism when it takes tradition and propagates it, adapting it to mdern material reality

hell imagine for example something as simple as clothes

the world for men runs on suites, so you take say an ethnic decoration and decorate some parts of the suite with this ethnic decoration. Or in fact change the cut of the suite entirely

this propagates tradition

architecture is another thing

There is actually a serious chat

This is very needed in most political discords.

sorry for the short input.

I agree, its very lacking and sually discussions are lacking in constructivity, and are just one view bashing the other

Question for every self labeled conservative, what exactly are you conserving?

money power and corruption

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4yi6eS7xiA

It's if

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Israel is unironically a based state

They outsmartted and manipulated the world