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@Attika It's not moronic, it's the truth. It is incompatible with nationalism. There is no way to justify being closed borders and isolationist within the capitalist framework. Is it the superior system

how does capitalism support nationalism lol

@Attika Justify being closed borders and isolationist within the capitalist framework

It’s completely justifiable.

Your arguments will come from other areas, but not from the capitalist framework

Capitalism is about meritocracy, free market and free trade with a currency.

There is nothing anti-nationalistic in that.

Yes there is

Capitalism is literally contradictory to nationalism

Capitalism will always put profit over the nation

Let me remind you it’s the Democratic Socialists of America who want Open Borders

Ok Cappie

No it won’t.

That’s insanity.

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If there are foreigners more educated than your average citizen, how can you justify letting them enter? @Attika

@Attika DSA are predominantly libertarian socialists

It's meritocratic

We're not libertarian socialists

Yall are Auth Socialists

@Shiba Inu the DSA

is

Maybe in an absolute ridiculous, 100% capitalistic dystopia yeah. Maybe. But capitalism is not inherently anti-nationists

I know

@Attika Will a corporation voluntarily employ more expensive employee's, with benefits, pay for their retirement, when they could just switch to a different labor pool?

Case is almost never no

@Maksim yeah. It will. If it’s a nationalist corporation that believes in the country. It will.

@Maksim Trumps been analyzed up, left, down, and sideways as a nationalist, and even claims himself to be a nationalist. His business practices also demonstrate that he is a capitalist.

Nationalist Capitalist.

Trump is a liberal

@DrRisen Trump is not a nationalist. He supports immigration and antinatalist programs.

Not in the "american sense"

I mean he is a classical liberal

@DrRisen Wrong

Especially since capitalist societies usually produce better students and entrepreneurs, the corporation is more likely to hire natives

Classical liberalism is gay

I gtg.

This is interesting.

He also wants to ban vapes all of a sudden <:lmao:588490785029226548> <:lmao:588490785029226548>

@DrRisen He is not a nationalist - a patriot maybe - not a nationalist

But I gotta go. Cya everyone. Interesting discussion.

@Attika Become nazbol pilled

Become reductionist

@Shiba Inu you really want him to become ashkenazbol?

become monky

Nazbol

GANG

Afro Nazbol gang rise up

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Id be fine with that

@Maksim Why not? He claims to be a nationalist. Everyone calls him a nationalist. If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck then it’s probably a duck.

@DrRisen Look at his actions

Not what people say

I mean could be a goose?

Idiot

@sandwitch Geese don’t quack, they honk.

@DrRisen he is a shapeshifter. Just because someone labels themselves as something doesn't make them one. Where is the wall he promised?

He has bowed to mega-corporations, has not build a single mile of border wall, expanded h1b1 visas, and more

The only nationalistic policy Trump has enacted so far is that he defunded Planned Parenthood.

that is the only good thing that has come out of his entire presidency

@Wubbzo Stuck in a quagmire of political resistance.

and not even significant defunding

@DrRisen ever heard of an executive order?

@DrRisen He has the power to act from executive power

@DrRisen being a libertarian I find it very authoritarian of you to assume what geese can and can't do. This only proves the idea that we as a society are brugening on a facist dictatorship. We ShoUlD haVE liSTenEd tO orWeLl wHeN hE gAVe Us the ChAnCE

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I love how people confuse authoritarian to automatically mean fascist

Fascist is an ideology, not a form of government

Yes

some people believe Authoritarian to automatically mean auth right
while Totalitarian automatically means auth left

Yes

Im totalitarian then

what

Executive orders are not wishes from fucking genies. They can’t do anything and everything. Why does nobody understand this??? You can’t just wave a magical fucking wand and have the budget and the law do whatever you want. The court system can and will block every single finger twitch you make if they want to.

Wrong chat? @DrRisen

@risxen

Right chat.

@DrRisen Martial Law

Ah right didn't see that

Glad to see everyone talking about something that isn't: muh communism, muh free markets, muh authoritarianism or muh civil rights

National Emergency

@DrRisen Trump can order the military to do whatever he needs

Brexit is a National Emergency at this point

He has done it in extremley minute scales for PR

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Unconstitutional for the military to fuck with law enforcement in US territory without congressional approval. Posse Comitatus Act bitches.

@DrRisen Securing the border is not fucking with law enforcement

On the contrary,

That’s the reason we don’t have a military division guarding our border instead of a federal agency.

no

We've already deployed a small number of troops there

In the practice of aiding paperwork and transporting shit,

They can’t do crap in a law enforcing capacity.

Just have the supreme court approve it

its 5-4 anyways

Fucking petty "democracy"

Getting in the way of action

But then it’s not an executive order. It would be going through the judicial branch.

Which defeats the point of avoiding the courts.