Nordics and protestantism is officially worse than pineapple on pizza

THIS^

pope kissed the feet of ....

"lmao catholicucks btfo, the pope kissed nigger feet **goes on to engage in sodomy and despair over their meaningless existence**"

So far, all the people that have argued with me over Catholicism (recent convert) have no idea what they're talking about

Muh mary worship

If Catholics worship Mary that's still miles better than Protestantism, which is ego worship

I still don't know where I stand on spirituality, I've leaned towards both Christianity and Paganism at different points, I was hoping somebody in a similar position could shed some light or give some reasons on why Christianity or specifically Catholicism is the right path. I'm English, but I have some Mediterranean and Irish heritage and I don't really know enough to pick a denomination. Presbyterianism seems more trad but Catholicism seems more European in it's rituals and optics. Also a fanatical National Socialist so I'd only really pick one that's compatible with that worldview

If anyone has any advice on this identity/spiritual crisis I'd appreciate it

English natsoc?

Yes

in what sense? do you agree with the racialist theory? I'm not too well read on natsoc stuff but I thought it was a german ideology

In every sense, the racial theories, economics and all ideals set out in Mein Kampf and the writings of Hitler. German Nationalism is a big aspect of the ideology but National Socialism is for all European and Aryan peoples of the world.

I'll send you a reading list if you're interested

i have a bunch of pol stuff downloaded but if you could send the most pertinent stuff that would be nice

Just sent, it's a visual reading list, all the essentials.

anyway, from what I know I'd say Catholicism would be the best if you wanted to unite Europe under Christianity

I might have to read more into the pope and Catholic teachings specifically to get a better sense of it, I think there might be a Catholic church near me

I'm in the same boat where I've oscillated between paganism and christianity, and have no idea what I actually believe. I lean towards converting back to Catholicism though

An interesting alternative to mainstream catholic churches where some of the poz has seeped in is the SSPX Catholic Churches where they keep to the way things were done before the Second Vatican Council which changed a lot of things in the 60s

I've considered delving into more Miguel Serrano and Savitri Devi and going full Esoteric Hitlerist but I want to exhaust all avenues when it comes to Christianity first

Yeah my main issue with the stuff like Esoteric Hitlerism and Nietzschean Autism is that it doesn't feel compatible. Neither really feel like holistic world views that can help you conquer despair.

I may just be missing the point entirely but I'm finding it difficult to put my faith into a Church that's corruptible and at times totally at odds with the interests of my race and what seems to me to be objectively true in National Socialism

The idea that the Jews are the chosen people and Niggers go to the same divine afterlife just seems wrong. The idea of Valhalla as a place for only for eternal heroes, martyrs and prophets who lived and died by their own iron will just feels correct.

Well the way I'd respond to that is this
A) The church is corruptible insofar as it is human, but we have an obligation to course correct it when it strays too far off path. The early writers and church fathers wrote things like that the Church may face states of necessity where it needs to be saved by any means necessary. But the fundamental teachings of the church as supposed to be infallible/incorruptible.
B) Jews being the chosen people didn't mean they were better, rather it highlights that they were worse. Some argue God chose them because of how particularly shitty they were, to show that even people that constantly worship demons and do all kinds of awful things can be saved. The Jews who accepted Christ were saved, those who denied him are basically cursed

Very interesting points

All that being said, I do still feel I'm missing something when it comes to Christianity, I might need to read more of the bible or something. Also there was 'Positive Christianity' and theories of Jesus being essentially an ethnically aryan martyr killed by the Jews

So I suppose there can be an Esoteric and still purely National Socialist interpretation of the bible.

C) Idk, niggers can go to heaven too, I don't see a problem with that. Do you see a problem with retards going to heaven? Valhalla sounds cool but does it really sound like something youd want for eternity. The idea of heaven is all of your non-essential parts are stripped away and you exist in a perfect form alongside god for all eternity.
D) National Socialism is a good political ideology I don't see anything in it that contradicts christianity inherently. I think its when you put race as the highest thing, as an idol essentially that it becomes a problem. Its entirely possible to have God, Family and Nation all at the same time though.

remember kings

1 Timothy 2:12

fellas

i need some readings on the existence of god

I don't know, I feel like there should be some hierarchy in the afterlife. I 100% do not believe that even if I converted today and was a devout Christian until I died that I would deserve to go anywhere near the same afterlife as some of the brilliant men in history

a shorter summa

St. Thomas Aquinas

I think I will go to the local Catholic Church soon though, just get a better idea of it. I'm believe in fate to an extent so if I go and this one happens to be totally cucked then I might not bother. We'll see though, I might feel at home there

i'm gonna try to convert myself im getting off discord for awhile HH fellas

I think a fundamental point of Christianity is that we're all deeply deeply flawed though. And even in your flaws God will forgive you. What is a great man to God? Yet Christ died for the greatest of men and the weakest of men alike @Brook

I read A Shorter Summa awhile back and its good but didn't really feel eye opening to me. Reading Kierkegaard has really changed the way I think

I appreciate the help brothers

Believe me I've struggled with all of this too
"Is this just slave morality?"
"Is this religion too egalitarian?"
"Is it too denying of this life?"
"Why do I want to join a religion that's rooted in Jews?"

But gradually these seem less and less important to me and it seems like the real root thing keeping me from it is whether or not I'm willing to believe it, pure and simple.

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when the commie outlets are giving this praise and attention it really irks me

https://www.yahoo.com/news/heartsick-boy-asks-atheist-dad-193340202.html

if he told the boy yes he is a heretic

well

if the father repented before he died

he obviously didnt

doesnt say

maybe

he was an atheist

but you can probably assume he didnt

why would he repent

fear

before death

no comedy pls

well youre not gonna tell a kid his dad is in hell

lol

if u read the atrilcle the pope wiggles his way out of iut by saying god decides

Yeah the optics of that is not good but he should not say he is in heaven either

id probably do the same

he didnt say he was in heaven

the commies are making it seem that way

to undermine the faith

yeah I know

par the for course

the pope advocates for the destruction of europe

i am conflicted

this pope is lame

not much to be conflicted about

we should help all peoples to be prosperous

i really hope we get a polish pope

trade is the way to do it

Ill settle for one that isnt a jesuit

the pope needs to be impeached

Nazbol pope

What'll be interesting is if Francis dies before Benedict

I'm the only Catholic in my friend group and they're ALWAYS asking me about crap the pope does. He's a jesuit wtf do you want

Are Jesuits heretical?

They are often communists

@Brook I doubt there's a single trad Catholic alive who has a positive view of the Jesuits

Oh wow, I wonder how they became so terrible

One take I heard is that they started out pozzed, then were good for awhile, and now they're pozzed again. They've had a complicated history, I don't know much about it.

Just don't confused based Jesuits of the past with the commie type ones nowadays

A pretty basic take is that they were viewed as the intellectual arm of the church. The Marxists purposefully infiltrated all intellectual institutions. It's not too hard to see how things eneded up how they are now

https://youtu.be/KVSLUJt5yWI

Solid channel

Fellas i finally have the opportunity to go to a latin mass this evening. Should I do it? Honestly, I don't fully understand how it works nor is my Latin understanding solid. It's a SSPX parish if that matters

yes and sit in the back

@Joe the boomer I'm kind of nervous

SSPX members can be a bit loony so try to find a local non SSPX Latin mass if you can

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