The admin aat schools here punish the victim and the bully

Bullying usually means fairly unintelligent people who don't give a shit end up going after people who are a threat to their status - I.E. social climbers. It's the socially awkward kid who wants to make something of himself, who gets his shit handed to him day after day by some entitled rich fuck who sees them as a potential threat.

This is true

Or some lower class thugs who want to hold down one of their own, to keep them from rising.

yesss

I was a social climber

"You're trying to make something of yourself.

Do you think you're fucking better than us?"

I was like number 2 chad

But never got to the top because I got kicked out for fighting

if you dont have people trying to pull you down how are you going to deal with it once you're out in the world with everyone for themselves

Based and commiepilled

like it's gonna happen you better be prepared

I think it'd be better to have actual training on how to deal with shitheads, so that in the meantime kids can focus on their studies.

You have to be a fighter if you want to be anything other then at the base of the pyramid

Bullying has a quantifiable effect on drug use, GPA, and incomes.

Aka commies who complain the system is unfair

I'm already prepared for the commies, i played enough helicopter simulations. <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

Schools that effectively tackle bullying usually see higher GPAs, less drug use, and lower crime rates.

Also higher incomes.

what margin you wanna err on - the safe doing fuckall or the risk and reward

Bullied people are unmotived and don't achieve

Its more about them not fitting in though

people who let themselves do fuckall in face of adversity, yes

I think they'd do okay in a sort of gang war where they did fit in

Uni kids when the Starbucks is too expensive

There's a reason private schools kick the public school system's ass. A huge part of that is their willingness to kick out kids who cause problems. Autistic people in particular are bullied about half as much in private school, because they don't treat education like it's some god given right.

If you shove another kid into a locker and create a toxic environment, the school throws you out.

This circles back to what I said about how schools pass people who should fail

yep

fuck me what

Which is like 20-30% of people in my experience

"If you shove another kid into a locker and create a toxic environment, the school throws you out."

what a fucking crime 😂

I lived in one of the less well off areas though

A civilized society is nothing more than a collective agreement that thugs can go fuck themselves, and that people who want to make something of themselves should be rewarded for doing so as long as they do so through proscribed methods (IE - Good GPA, good job and/or start a business).

fuck gpa 😂

I don't think anyone can disagree with that

Maybe I spoke too soon

But posted too late

overall yes 😛

Civilization started out with ropes and hatchets, where people who stole lost their lives over it, and people who constantly started shit ended up being hanged from a nearby tree.

That's all it is, a collective agreement that thugs and drama queens aren't going to run the show.

no civilisation started with the three brothers Lech Czech and Rus leaving the fertile lands

Even if you have to kill them to keep them from taking over.

and coming to the shit corner of europe

We don't have to do that obvs though

Anyone kicked out of school

Can actually just go to another one

So its actually a good punishment

Imagine how salty your parents would be if you got expelled lol

meh overall no issue just details, as in what's punishable

shoving people into lockers 🤷

I say treat them like army basic training tbh

They don't have rights until they turn 18

i mean yeah what else is the purpose of education

@Samaritan - Screw that. Fine the parents for their children's behaviors, then just listen to the 911 calls over all the little pieces of shit getting their ass kicked by some angry mamas who can't afford the fine.

if people think getting a degree is a human right, we should be giving degrees at birth lol

about as useful

Black women in particular would beat the royal shit out of their kids, if they got hit with a $250 fine.

Once again honestly not against fining them

ahahha

fine poor people more

so that they can go to jail for debts

that'll sort em out

Hang on now

and their kids behaviour at school

If they can't pay the fine, make them clean the school's toilets for $10 an hour.

ahhha

oh wait

that's more or less how my school would operate

That way they can be close to their kids, and their kids can see the angry expression on their mom's face as she empties the dumpster right before school gets out, knowing exactly what's in store for them when they get home.

if you break something, you buy it back

Hang on

E Z

if you cant buy it, you'll be the janitor for a bit

Do it for free

Kids don't have rights till 18

is that even under question?

Make them run 10km

no dont 😛

we had penalty PE

it's a commie thing

Just imagine if some poor black woman was emptying the trash can in her kid's class, just to avoid jail for a fine she can't pay, and her kid has to look her in the eyes while she grabs the garbage bag out of the can, seeing the pure and unadulterated rage.

Kid knows he's gonna get slapped at home.

and it's part of controlled antagonism among kids

People have jobs

I mean not all of them

noooo

what are you talking about Arthur

the kids will learn someone else will take the shit

Not everyone with bad kids are unemployed lol

True

they might get a slap but at least they arent the ones cleaning

No, the kids will learn that if they misbehave their mom is going to beat the shit out of them when they get home for like a week straight.

They're going to lose a fuckload of privileges.

well ok im a bit biased here

Take away their lunch time

LOL

Don't let them eat food for the day

Detention doesn't work.

because i would get beaten no matter what but hey