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What is even essentialism?
I really didn't expect this.
Constructivism is bad mkay
Holy shit Drywall you fucking anarchist lmao
Gender is social construct.
That's constructivism.
Constructivism = gender social construct
Essentialism = Biological differences determine gender roles
Yeah that dna differences and such don’t exist
Which is bullshit
That everything is a product of society
Constructivism, at least when it comes to the differences between sexes, is legit false.
There are actual demonstrable physiological and neurological differences.
Its almost like we have a different god damn chromosome, the literal blueprints of our bodies aren't the same.
When it asked if sexuality is a social concept *STRONGLY DISAGREE*
yeah
Its been proven repeatedly you cannot force someone to change their sexual preference.
It becomes complicated when it comes to human action in general though. Like how much of a person beliefs are their own or how much come from parents, schools and such.
I think i picked somewhat in that one.
Trying tends to lead to them killing themselves
I dont care how inflatable blaire white's tits are shes still mentally deranged
Almost like conversion therapy was a mistake
Aight yeah
I'd be very essentialist then
Have any of y’all taken this one yet?
So many of them.
Which makes me a white supremacist of course
So many tests.
Havent done that one yet
havent
link it
I don't trust any of these tests
You guys see the meme test?
everyonje I knew was an edgy boi
High likelihood that at least one of the bars is incorrect
Yeah but its better than the virgin political compass
"Yer a centrist bright"
> Nationalist Libertarian
I think the political compass is complete trash
ok sure
It's trash because as was mentioned earlier left/right is archaic and stupid.
Even two dimensions are trash
i have always been in orbit but i never found out why
And with three dimensions it would only increase the likelihood of a fuck-up
it just so happens to be that i'm retarded
Here’s the philosophical one
Ok, so
Here's just one of the problems with a philosophical dichotomy
Nihilism on one side, ok
The opposite would be... what?
I think it’s talking about moral nihilism vs clearly defined morals
Ok so far so good, then the next problem
Where does absurdism go?
the questions on the capitalism-communism axis kinda suck
Man, that's some strong commie.
Idk exactly, high on nihilism, high on skepticism, high on rationalism?
Well, see
It just shows how much can go wrong with these tests
By the way on the political test it should be capitalism - socialism, not capitalism - communism
cap - com is not a true dichotomy
yeah you are correct
the questions are too broad
it should be socialism vs capitalism
stuff like "should state owned companies be run like private ones and be run according to market forces" or whatever
For my results
Behold muh altruisitic nihilism
If there was one thing I wish I got more in it was the ecological side
Some of the questions are too vague on this too
There’s a lot of third options you could take that are neither communist/capitalist
Because I do care about the environment but global warming is kinda dumb I care more about pollutants
👌 👌 👌 👌
What’d the test say on the bottom?
for me?
Hobbesian.
Is it close?
I dont know, never read Hobbes.
Materialism should be higher imo
I don't think there's anything supernatural.
Idealism vs pragmatism is in balance, which seems accurate.
because i take a pragmatic approach to my ideals.
Hedonism should be higher, but the problem with hedonism is that I'm less concerned with obtaining pleasure and more concerned with minimizing suffering.
Though I suppose that there are only a few things I need to be happy, so asceticism should be present in moderation.
Rationalism is right.
Skepticism is correct as well.
Nihilism vs Moralism is
fine
A lot of my viewpoints seem to conflict and that's fine
Is nihilism just acknowledging or being black pilled?
its the belief there's no meaning to life
or anything
Nihilism is pretty much the ultimate black pill
From an objective standpoint I agree with that statement, though through the rejection of objective meaning I assign subjective meaning.
Hard to function as a human being when you're a complete 100% nihilist
Only if you think too much
I mean
define 100% nihilist
if you do nothing but think inside a locked space your mind "rots"
Nothing matters to the universe
but shit still matters to *me*
100% nihilism would be literally nothing matters, meaning nothing matters to you either
I define nihilist as in not believing in God but thats just my radical short sighted opinion
the lack of stimuli sends you to places you wouldn't normally go to
Because theres totally meaning to life
A lot of things dont matter to me
I pick and choose what does
Technically as an absolutist nihilist you can do anything you want, but it would all be devoid of meaning, so you could only have fun if you enjoy doing meaningless things, otherwise death may be your only real option.
Good thing I enjoy doing meaningless things then
Well shit after reading that I agree kinda with both. You yourself of the universe in a way you *do* care the universe *cares* even if it works against you. But if it all just worked out then what's the point of it all? When we get über advanced that's where we'll live possibly in our imaginations where we live peacefully with eachother or smth 'nother, but ya know what I'm gettin at
I strive for an average day in which I feel nothing. I find peace in that emptiness. I don't bother myself with things like getting angry or having enemies, because it brings disquiet into my life. I like things quiet.
I do have friends, and enjoy their company.
@JoeyJoestar1337 sounds like absurdism might interest you
Absurdism is the one where you realize the universe has no meaning then start giving it meaning yourself right?
Yeah
yeah, I do that
I'm very picky about what I give meaning
it helps keep you from getting worked up
i don't like getting worked up.
No point to it really
Probably
Said the nihilist
I used to get very worked up
it sucked
Getting worked up isn’t productive
So I stopped
I go the route recommended by Alan Watts's interpretation of Hindu philosophy, where animated action by living beings is conceptualized as "play". Where does that fall into?
gives other people massive amounts of power over you, if they can change your state of mind easily
@Jack Bright practiced attention/meditation might help you get better control of how you feel, eliminating the sense that you are in fact worked up and making others lose any power over you
Oh I just did that by breaking myself in college and then putting the bits back together in the course of about an hour.
Much faster.
Well if it works, it works
> pragmatist badge
Goodness me I am TEAM BORIS!!!
"I can't dissent!" - flipping takes responsibility. Pulls his sleeves up, gets ready to respect people's opinion. As they're not facts. If you have done a piss poor job, take precedence over that and be held accountable for your actions. Sir Darrach has done that and resigned. I just think it's a sign for old traditions to come back.
https://www.politico.eu/article/exclusive-johnson-finds-it-hard-to-disagree-with-trumps-verdict-on-may/
Just don’t put too much of your faith in politicians.
Perhaps paradoxically, despite being someone who only wishes to be left alone, I want to join the military, a place where by definition nobody leaves you alone.
walking contradictions are fun.
That's not a contradiction if you've only formulated the wish, not done the deed
I am actively working on the deed.
Not necessarily. I’m assuming you’re not a total hermit, you seek to the choice of being able to be left alone. Probably not to be left alone all of the time.
I'm not retarded, so I'm getting a 4 year degree before I go in.
officers make more.
I'm not a total hermit, there are a few people that I enjoy the company of
It’s not a bad gig.
but like
formal gatherings with a ton of strangers, I won't go there unless I have to.
I am a total hermit. I have my bat cave and I like it.
According to a recent video I watched, the average person can only have a handful true friends, the rest are just people they know
I have like two people I'm fanatically loyal to and about two other close friends. Everyone else is 'acquaintance' at best.
Tolerated, maybe liked, never anything more.
Still, I carefully ensure that I myself am liked, because I have no time for enemies.
That's nothing out of the ordinary
It used to be normal pre 21st century
I want to join the military for veteren benefits so after I get out of the military I can fuck off and be left alone again but with better stuff.
I hear they screw over veterans regularly
Also because muh nationalism
or just do what you want all the time
Not sure if true
Only the VA
And I think it’s better now
Private companies do veterens discounts too
And I count "money" as a veteren benefit
that is such a minimal
If your retire in the military the benefits are very good
yeah if you actually are useful enough to hit 20 years
You actually make out like a bandit
but you have to be on your A-game the entire time and be really
REALLY good
They do not like keeping people on for 20 years.
Costs money.
Job positions really narrow
And if you don’t promote you get discharged
yeah
Could be worse though
I do have ideals
@ETBrooD Do you know how I think the Facebook , shallow , narcissistic , egotistical, anarchism, plethora of bullshit, has affected people's way of thinking? When the shift between, us, being anonymous - became a personal attack on what we are, who we are and whomever we associate ourselves with. You may have a thousand friends on Facebook. But because of the fact they force you to declare your name and expose your job position, means, your like a lamb to the slaughter.
Perhaps, you don't need to know that many people in real life?
Perhaps, acquaintances and distinguishing the difference between that is human?
As you try to get closer to people, you can't because your in this anarchial bubble, where, everything and everyone whom gets close to you is exposing your human weaknesses?
Perhaps, we are meant to be entitled to a private life?
I have only my family on Facebook purely so I can contact them through messenger, I use FB for nothing else or put any info on it 😆
@JoeyJoestar1337 wait I want to show you how the British Press ...
Now.... It maybe compared to CNN....
How the British press print a story 3 days ago. And how even Malaysia don't want to harm a man .
I don't know how we ended up in this tyrannical direction. But, shit ... It's like scary. Shit!!! It's not even Imperialist ideology. It's like serious, dope pill of dope. And it doesn't give any meaning other than to discredit a human being.
Now, if they can do this to Boris Becker, a huge successful German tennis player. Pal! They would destroy their own grannies, principles.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/boris-becker-forced-flog-82-17575695.amp#ampshare=https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/boris-becker-forced-flog-82-17575695
Incredible
Going to show you the Indian press instead printed 3 hours ago.
And this is why the British public are now , playing into the hands of the evil and they're enslaved. They don't print the truth anymore. They don't follow up on a story. They just make up stories. They don't have any real weight. It's all slanderous bollocks. Your words on TWITTER are FACTS not Opinion. So , you can't get to that objective point of view until you step outside the bubble. However people are too affraid .
And their all trapped on an island, behaving like savage's. As crime has increased and moral decay has set in .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/sports/tennis/auction-of-tennis-great-boris-beckers-trophies-raises-over-800000/lite/#ampshare=https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/tennis/auction-of-tennis-great-boris-beckers-trophies-raises-over-800000/
@James Rimor sensible man.
@JoeyJoestar1337 yeah and it sickens me, to imagine they aren't brave enough to STAND IT ALONE, AND GO WITHOUT EUROPE, due to the press.
What did this Becker guy do?
@Goodwood of Dank™ Tennis player, world champion 13 times in a row. Gold 🏅 doubles champion.
Nice bloke as well. Always challenged people's thinking.
But what did he supposedly do to be in this situation?
Have a look at the British article and compare it to the Indian one.
You can't give me a quick tl;dr?
Sorry the Indian one sucks off the teet of the British.The Malaysia one explains
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/sports/2019/07/12/boris-beckers-trophy-auction-raises-over-680000/
Dude wasn't allowed to hold the auction because of diplomatic emunity. That's not bankruptcy, that's him leaving the UK and closing his bank accounts and freezing his assets .
"The auction was to be held last year but was delayed after Becker claimed diplomatic immunity from bankruptcy proceedings by taking up a role with the Central African Republic as a sports envoy."
Because he was trying to raise cash for sports in Africa. Like most of the bloody , sports men and women are meant to do.
If a thorough investigation was held you'd find out that he's a coach to Djovick. Who is 2x champion. So, it's all slanderous and scandalous, sensationalism. And no decent society should follow such behaviour.
But, let's just get down to the moral deception. @Goodwood of Dank™
Why do you think they would pull a man through the mud with the name like Boris ?
Did they perhaps confuse him with Boris Johnson?
Dirty, dirty smear merchants aren't too bright.
No, Boris Becker the former world champion is in their TV screens during Wimbledon. He presents Wimbledon with a panel of sports stars.
@Goodwood of Dank™ yet, you see - imagine if; now, you're an average person. Not famous, and your parent's blessed you with the name **B0Ri$**... would you feel good about being talked about maliciously?
I mean , I didn't realize how potent the situation was until I took a break and looked on the internet to see what happens. I can tell....
This is worse than a puritain witch hunt.
*shrug* I guess I'm not getting what you're driving at.
@Goodwood of Dank™ I guess, what I am trying to say is, they like to paint celebraties as evil. Okay, I know that Angelina Jolie, she was just trying to be a mom when she adopted those kids. But she was a philanthropist. HUGE ONE.
Now they are printing some stupid, line coke story about her getting married to a British billionaire.
She denies it. Meaning : they are slanderous , like a lot of scandal. Heck, they hated Bush because Megan Markle didn't want to comment about it and then made a remark. It's great.
But when women's magazines, are then, the printing source for the tabloid news, you have to wonder where they are actually heading. It's scary.
For one you pay more for a glossy magazine. That's the same all the way round the world.
The second is, when people declare bankruptcy over diplomatic emunity . It's like, meaning they are philanthropists as well. They have money, they just don't want to follow NGO'S....
Does that make sense to you now?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/amp26793090/angelina-jolie-marry-british-billionaire/#ampshare=https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/a26793090/angelina-jolie-marry-british-billionaire/
@Goodwood of Dank™ and yet that Sir Kim Derrach storyline, doesn't worry people at all either.
@Goodwood of Dank™ cos he wanted to have diplomatic immunity sorry. So, he went bankrupt for it. But, it's okay, they'll keep lying out of their teeth man and printing bullshit stories. Some middle class, toffee, reads it or working class person and thinks - yeah but think about it... How bad are the press that you would have to file for diplomatic immunity???
Man its really easy to smear someone when you list out people they ‘might’ be associated with...
https://twitter.com/camcamdamn/status/1149311833091780609?s=21
It's pretty ridiculous to even say. Fellow EDL members when you're no longer a fellow EDL member yourself.
There's a mixture of feeling I have towards Tommy's overall political marketing.
I guess the Muslim rape gang angle works but it does allow twats like this bitch to bring up shitty but persuasive counter arguments like this.
Personally I just prefer the overall angle of there's to many foreigners they need to go back. But I guess to a degree that doesn't carry the same optics as Tommy as he can ally all anti-Islam supporters regardless of race.
The only people I care that Tommy's associated with are the ones with echos around their names.
Look at that
How
How does anyone read that and take sky news seriously
>go to germany
>hello fellow nazis
Talking about nazis, saw a reichsadler with WV logo instead of the laurel/swastika
+1 for creativity, I guess, but it's weird seeing someone advertising their hyperstatism like that
A picture of a group of EDL members (The party formerly lead by infamous hate criminal tommy robinson) holding a nazi flag has recently been uncovered
EDL/Rommy Tominson belongs to a set of things that is "far more complicated than people want you to believe"
This is how they try and smear people, take some unpallatable thing and try and associate you with it, and then peoples outrage will do the rest.
I worked it out, I couldn't find any more cases of EDL pedophile cases. so the 13 she listed there (she added on that wasn't even related to pedophilia charges, just some random battery case) make up 0.05% of EDLs 25,000 (conservative estimate) memners
the fucking english rate of pedophilia convictions is 0.08%
so (as much as the EDL became a hive of shitheads) it still has a lower rate of pedophiles than the the english public
YET THIS IS SOMEHOW A SMITE AGAINST TOMMY?!
and fucking idiots lap it up
because they cant think for themselves
holy fuck get me out of england
Yeah
Tommy's kind of a dick
But overall decent guy
Still, punching people for insults is unacceptable
Tommy wouldn't punch people who disagree with him
...if they are accompanied with their wife.
(Yeah, he's kinda trad-feminist in that respect: punching men for disagreement is OK if women are not discomforted by witnessing it.)
(But he's just a football hooligan.)
(I don't find him racist in any way, just a short-tempered ruffian who doesn't have access to his frontal lobe.)
Even sargon's minions cant do audio lol
i cant listen to that interview with tommy
`California Becomes First State To Give Illegal Immigrants Government Healthcare`
RIP
i cant believe the stupidity
welp
I'm off to cali to see what they say about this weird birth mark i have
u could be raped halfway, tread lightly lol
Jimmy Dore is shitting on Dalai Lama in a new vid, cause he doesnt have trump derangement syndrome and saying that europe needs to remain europe, not africa
thats your *sane* left
Most people shitting on Dalai Lama's comment on Europe doesn't understand why, but there's a clear reason behind his Europe comment.
Mass Immigration of Chinese people to Tibet has been a CCP strategy to erode nationalist sentiments in Tibet. They do it in Tibet, they do it In Xinjiang.
i understand why chinese are doing it, i still dont understand why eu is doing it to itself. is it evil, is it stupidity, is it smth else
because the EU isn't run by people who care about europeans, but by a foreign entity which wants to destroy them
but why tho, why europeans want to destroy themselves? some say *cause eu is old and dying and to bring workers and population* but it doesnt make sense, they do not work, they bleed eu's economy like bunch of parasites, they actively oppose the culture, laws and rules. whats the point? it's like some dr. evil is sitting there and laughing, and wants just to watch it all burn. But then what?
envy, and revenge
by whom mate? they envious of what exactly? and revenge for what?
im legit asking
just hope u wont give me `mah jews` lecture
lol
the (((chinese communists))) obviously ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
joking aside, there s certainly jewish involvement, yes, but not all of it is jews
the jewish mafias are a big contributing factor, though
a lot of it corruption in general
corruption is a method, im more interested in reasons why are they doing it in the first place, they live in london, they live in brussels, they subsequently fuck themselves over for what? whats the endgoal?
Depends on which country.
I think in Germany, Merkel genuinely made a political mistake.
In Sweden i think i see some Ideological fanaticism.
France has been talking about bringing them in, but when Italy wants to send the boat people to them they say no.
but we clearly see what eropean union is pushing. u're talking about how the deal with it, im interested WHY brussels is pushing
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