cross the greens

cross the beams

@Gservator i remember a good doujin with a mothlady

Oof.

Whelp, I won the Colonialism arguement

Good

They resorted to the card that someone else uses on the server when they're losing which is to argue "You're not white" without knowing what race someone is.

You should've been here when a Commie was asking for evidence for shit like the Holodomor and when presented he said it's too long to read and ignored it

I was there

I'm not white

Stfu beaner

I'm not beans either

I even argued without colonization, at all, europe would still be in a relative Dark-Age if it never left and it would be either the Arabs or Asians who'd do colonialism

I was in Pre-school

I was in grade 1

I was 3 lmao

yep

this is interestng

I was the last kid picked up from school because there was traffic due to everyone panicking and running home or picking up kids and prepping for the worst

So anyways, they argued

"The Japanese learned imperialism from us dragging them into the open world
The Turks and Arabs? We exploited and conquered for centuries before they kicked back"

and I told them, Before we even went to japan, the japs already conquered Korea

Tell that to the Ainu

I was in highschool, watching the matter on the TVs in the cafeteria.

and the Japs were fighting the Chinese, they didn't even have guns before the Portuguese came and even after that they re-invaded Korea.

and then the Koreans rebelled once they got sold guns by the dutch

And making bad jokes about it being an inside job with my friends.

It's as if conflict is primate nature

except MA is lying -- was a civilian (and always has been) ... he wasn't deployed, he had a job on a boat that happened to be in harbor

What

Later on, because of that matter and others, I joined the Marines.

What

Iraq should have been finished in the 90s.

Buildings break into pieces not many would remain the size of said building

Regardless of the why, the door was opened and the matter needed to be *solved*.

So, this was basically the end of the arguement. Now they're upset I called the Belgian's dutch in joke reply. And this was the best reply.

nothing's a burden, when you can laugh at 200 rounds per minute in the congo.

Bingo bongo

Let's restore the Belgian Congo

Bunga bunga.

tfw all the most well off non-western countries were former british colonies

das waciss

das be obektiv

Regardless the Green person's argument is that. more or less. you can't argue an industrialized nation with better standards of living can be viewed as a "Net positive"

So, me conquering Algeria and industrializing it to the biggest vacation spot in the french empire isn't seen as a "Net positive"

Okay, what the hell did you mean with the first half of that

Better?

https://tenor.com/view/sexy-hot-cooking-crazy-gif-5559513

Basically they argue improving a nation's quality of living and industrializing it isn't a positive for colonialism. As the inherent going there and colonizing the place and conquering the natives is just so terrible that all colonialism is evil because of it.

Let's set a boundary first

What would you consider objectively "positive"?

having food on the plate

having water

sanitization

clothes

warmth

stable housing

Have I given you new technology, have I improved your quality of life, can you eat food and have clean water and sanitized life. ARE YOU NOT LIVING IN A MUD HUT

and do you have infrastructure and are not a fucking cannibal anymore

Guess humans should never had colonized Neanderthal land and stayed in Africa

A counter argument would be that they aren't free now

security, healthcare, disaster control

you're playing the anarchist argument

Even provided all the mentioned above

But they need a licence to hunt the buffalo now

Look, Despite the negatives of the enslavement, the cutting off the hands to maintain quotas, the extermination of cultures, etc. I still say the overall improvement is worth the cost.

Oh don't get me wrong, I am totally on board with forced colonization

You heard it here Folks, The Ends Justify The Means

Slavery has some pretty nasty ramifications of preventing greater industrialization.

I am just trying to provide a counter point

of course the ends justify the memes

If the galactic empire of starwars came tommorow, and promised us good tech, a galactic economy, and the ability to get into the greater galaxy at the cost of being a vassalized world to provide it with raw resources. I would be tempted to take the offer.

otherwise you'd be a silly guilt ridden twat

and no one should suffer from a nervous system that wants to kill itself

We ended slavery, i'm not saying it's right, but cost wise I consider it a minor cost to what the alternative was

I can't say that colonization prevents progress in the same way as slavery does.

I don't want to go the way of the Geonosians

the alternative in my eyes was that if the Europeans didn't do it, the Arabs or Asians would in time.

Great, now I'm arguing for imperialist doctrine.

Having slaves is free labour which in the long run damages the job market and the economy

>Arabs
>Building boats

As the South has shown us

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and we were smart enough to abolish slavery

Whereas colonization provides more access to resources and markets.

and now we know, not establishing quotas in the congo is bad

slavery got niggers here

worst

Eh, slavery wasn't a race matter.

Well, the anglos WERE factually the people who abolished slavery

Fuck off with your Congo bs Kaiser, nuke it

it was always about the meat <:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

I want the Rubber, Diamonds, and Salt of the congo G

no one can stop me

The bands of cannibalistic millitias can