I was the last kid picked up from school because there was traffic due to everyone panicking and running home or picking up kids and prepping for the worst

So anyways, they argued

"The Japanese learned imperialism from us dragging them into the open world
The Turks and Arabs? We exploited and conquered for centuries before they kicked back"

and I told them, Before we even went to japan, the japs already conquered Korea

Tell that to the Ainu

I was in highschool, watching the matter on the TVs in the cafeteria.

and the Japs were fighting the Chinese, they didn't even have guns before the Portuguese came and even after that they re-invaded Korea.

and then the Koreans rebelled once they got sold guns by the dutch

And making bad jokes about it being an inside job with my friends.

It's as if conflict is primate nature

except MA is lying -- was a civilian (and always has been) ... he wasn't deployed, he had a job on a boat that happened to be in harbor

What

Later on, because of that matter and others, I joined the Marines.

What

Iraq should have been finished in the 90s.

Buildings break into pieces not many would remain the size of said building

Regardless of the why, the door was opened and the matter needed to be *solved*.

So, this was basically the end of the arguement. Now they're upset I called the Belgian's dutch in joke reply. And this was the best reply.

nothing's a burden, when you can laugh at 200 rounds per minute in the congo.

Bingo bongo

Let's restore the Belgian Congo

Bunga bunga.

tfw all the most well off non-western countries were former british colonies

das waciss

das be obektiv

Regardless the Green person's argument is that. more or less. you can't argue an industrialized nation with better standards of living can be viewed as a "Net positive"

So, me conquering Algeria and industrializing it to the biggest vacation spot in the french empire isn't seen as a "Net positive"

Okay, what the hell did you mean with the first half of that

Better?

https://tenor.com/view/sexy-hot-cooking-crazy-gif-5559513

Basically they argue improving a nation's quality of living and industrializing it isn't a positive for colonialism. As the inherent going there and colonizing the place and conquering the natives is just so terrible that all colonialism is evil because of it.

Let's set a boundary first

What would you consider objectively "positive"?

having food on the plate

having water

sanitization

clothes

warmth

stable housing