Message from @ryvergate
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Basically they argue improving a nation's quality of living and industrializing it isn't a positive for colonialism. As the inherent going there and colonizing the place and conquering the natives is just so terrible that all colonialism is evil because of it.
Let's set a boundary first
What would you consider objectively "positive"?
having food on the plate
having water
sanitization
clothes
warmth
stable housing
Have I given you new technology, have I improved your quality of life, can you eat food and have clean water and sanitized life. ARE YOU NOT LIVING IN A MUD HUT
and do you have infrastructure and are not a fucking cannibal anymore
Guess humans should never had colonized Neanderthal land and stayed in Africa
A counter argument would be that they aren't free now
security, healthcare, disaster control
you're playing the anarchist argument
Even provided all the mentioned above
But they need a licence to hunt the buffalo now
Look, Despite the negatives of the enslavement, the cutting off the hands to maintain quotas, the extermination of cultures, etc. I still say the overall improvement is worth the cost.
You heard it here Folks, The Ends Justify The Means
Slavery has some pretty nasty ramifications of preventing greater industrialization.
I am just trying to provide a counter point
of course the ends justify the memes
If the galactic empire of starwars came tommorow, and promised us good tech, a galactic economy, and the ability to get into the greater galaxy at the cost of being a vassalized world to provide it with raw resources. I would be tempted to take the offer.
otherwise you'd be a silly guilt ridden twat
and no one should suffer from a nervous system that wants to kill itself
We ended slavery, i'm not saying it's right, but cost wise I consider it a minor cost to what the alternative was
I can't say that colonization prevents progress in the same way as slavery does.
I don't want to go the way of the Geonosians
the alternative in my eyes was that if the Europeans didn't do it, the Arabs or Asians would in time.
Great, now I'm arguing for imperialist doctrine.
Having slaves is free labour which in the long run damages the job market and the economy
>Arabs
>Building boats
As the South has shown us
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and we were smart enough to abolish slavery
Whereas colonization provides more access to resources and markets.
and now we know, not establishing quotas in the congo is bad
slavery got niggers here