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Work in progress of the Vektor R4


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Have ypu watched the forgotten weapons video about the R4 R5 and R6 if not its a good video to explain the basic difference between the sa version and the real galil

2018-11-14 14:03:32 UTC

@Dr. NUGGETS I have and am using it as a point of reference while modeling. Thank goodness for that video of his because it is making it far easier to get things right. Albeit I am only making the R4 modifications afterwards as I am currently modeling the standard Galil since the first batch of R4's were identical to it. I will then make the later R4 variant with the polymer handguard and other modifications unique to the R4 and R5.

2018-11-14 14:03:57 UTC

Won't be making the R6 as it was not issued to the SADF and SANDF AFAIK.

2018-11-14 14:14:01 UTC

Ok cool will you be keeping the bipods ?

2018-11-14 14:14:17 UTC

Or adding at a later stage aswell ?

2018-11-14 14:14:23 UTC

For the R4 yes

2018-11-14 14:14:45 UTC

R5 doesn't have a bipod

2018-11-14 14:15:16 UTC

Yeah but the Lm 5's did

2018-11-14 14:15:42 UTC

LM 5's are single shot civilian versions I believe?

2018-11-14 14:17:43 UTC

Yes they are but i was just saying that most of them had the bipods

2018-11-14 14:18:34 UTC

Seeing as some of them were converted R4's

2018-11-14 14:19:22 UTC

I'll look into it. Wouldn't be a problem keeping the bipods on the R5's

2018-11-14 14:19:38 UTC

But yeah the models are looking really really good

2018-11-14 14:20:31 UTC

Cheers man. I'm keen to see it in Squad I wonder how they will perform against the AK's and M4's

2018-11-14 14:21:50 UTC

Well seeing as its basically an akm I'll think they'll do pretty good

2018-11-14 14:22:45 UTC

Lower calibre though so less recoil than the AKM

2018-11-14 14:23:30 UTC

Ahh wait brainfart i was thinking of the 5.56 ak

2018-11-14 14:24:54 UTC

Don't know what its called tho just now the ruskys had one

2018-11-14 14:25:09 UTC

AK74 is in 5.56

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Yeah that one lol

2018-11-14 14:26:17 UTC

No scopes for any of the factions though so that's going to be very interesting

2018-11-14 14:26:29 UTC

Kind of like a bridge between Post Scriptum and Squad.

2018-11-14 14:26:57 UTC

Shorter engagement distances etc

2018-11-14 14:27:05 UTC

Thick bush is also going to be a factor.

2018-11-14 14:28:09 UTC

Ooh i really can't wait

2018-11-14 14:29:54 UTC

Are there gonna be a R4 lmg like the RPK ? With the 50 round mags ?

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50 Round mags for the R4 will be available. But only one per rifleman as was standard in the SADF from what I've heard.

2018-11-14 14:31:49 UTC

Ok cool is there going to be a specific way to select that mag ?

2018-11-14 14:33:42 UTC

There would have to be ja. Will see how that will work when the time comes

2018-11-14 14:33:57 UTC

And are you going to implement an R1 ? Seeing as they also saw service before the R4 was adopted ?

2018-11-14 14:34:21 UTC

Although troops on patrol would use the 50 round mag first because it wouldn't fit in their battlejackets unlike the 32 round mags

2018-11-14 14:34:41 UTC

Yes R1 will be made but the FN FAL is already in Squad and will be using that as a placeholder til I model the R1

2018-11-14 14:34:55 UTC

I'll probably have the R1 ready before the character models though so no worries

2018-11-14 14:35:13 UTC

Just to pop in before going to bed. Look to the way the PPSH is already set up in squad where you have two inventory slots for drum and stick mags.

2018-11-14 14:35:34 UTC

Something I'm planning on doing with my rebels.

2018-11-14 14:35:55 UTC

Cool cool im looking forward to the mod more and more

2018-11-14 14:37:22 UTC

just letting you guys know i will only be posting progress on the mapping once @Springbok models most of the stuff that will be placed in the maps

2018-11-14 14:37:29 UTC

@Stom Cool man, I forgot about the PSSH having both stick and drum mags.

2018-11-14 14:38:25 UTC

No rush get it done good and proper we will all wait patiently πŸ‘Œ

2018-11-15 07:27:35 UTC

@Dr. NUGGETS lm5 doesn not have and never had a bipod

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@Springbok ak74 is in 5.45

2018-11-15 07:28:49 UTC

I can try to get some pics today of my uncles gun

2018-11-15 07:29:17 UTC

He has a modernised r5 as well with rails and shit as well as a bxp

2018-11-15 07:34:40 UTC

For the maps will you be using satellite images as reference?

2018-11-15 09:52:19 UTC

@kingdmb Yes I do plan on using satellite images for real world locations like Cuito Cuanavale, Cassinga, Tumpo, Lomba river etc

2018-11-15 09:53:12 UTC

@Kooijpolloi Awesome bru does he have an R4 or R5 without rails on it as well? Otherwise no worries just take pics πŸ˜‰

2018-11-15 09:54:08 UTC

I'd like pics of the iron sights as well aiming down so I can get the sight picture as accurate as I can get it. Try to get all angles

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@Springbok R4 is without rails stock standard

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Awesome that'll do. Take as many pics as you can bud would help me out a lot

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I hope you can use this

2018-12-11 12:07:46 UTC

Got pics of that bxp as well for you

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@Kooijpolloi My mother loving man!

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Thanks so much

2018-12-14 15:58:27 UTC

Crude boxout of the Eland 90 at the moment. Working on multiple models at the same time ✌🏻 I'll be streaming my modeling sessions soon after Christmas so you guys can pop in and watch every now and then and see the hours it takes to get things accurate 😱


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I'm modeling the Eland 90 with an interior as all SADF vehicles will have one albeit simplistic not as detailed as the real thing since that would take forever

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cant wait for the mod. take all the time you need to make this great

2018-12-14 16:06:50 UTC

Thanks man. No need to take years, all it needs is a few months to about 1 year provided I put the effort in. The trick is to stay motivated πŸ˜‹

2018-12-14 16:07:33 UTC

Trust me we all are super motivated and backing you to the fullest

2018-12-14 16:09:02 UTC

Most of the FAPLA and SWAPO stuff is in thank goodness. So it's mainly the SADF stuff to do.

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FAPLA and SWAPO stuff being AK's, BTR's, BRDM's etc that are already in Squad

2018-12-14 16:09:32 UTC

how do they look if you have some pics?

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Nah those are the ones done by OWI

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Oh oky cool

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May have to do some of them though like the T-34'85 as that doesn't seem to be coming to Squad that I know of along with the PT-76, BTR-152 and others though the SADF stuff is the priority since its so unique whereas a BTR-80 could pass for a BTR-60 at least as a placeholder so not too bothered with them at the moment.

2018-12-14 16:12:27 UTC

Yea true

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I know this mod is gonna be amazing. im never leaving my pc when this comes out

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Just pray it comes out πŸ˜‚

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Dont have too

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So many mods get left in limbo for a variety of reasons. Although I'm far more passionate about this than any other mod... Patriotism helps

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We all will burn down EVERY single building till we get that mod in😎

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@Springbok glad to help man

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@Boomninja The South African way πŸ˜‹

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Dont you know it

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Thanks again Kooij those pictures are a god send

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Don't know it? Did I miss something? πŸ˜…

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haha no you didnt

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So sexy! Paint me like one of your French Panhards 😘


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I take it you live in bloem

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Theres one in a suburb in irene as well

2018-12-14 16:33:04 UTC

Awesome! The only one I've seen in person was at the Military history museum in Joburg

2018-12-14 16:33:40 UTC

if you can see the board behind it. ot says TEMPE which is located in bloem.

2018-12-14 16:34:09 UTC

Oh sweet good catch

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well i see it alot lol

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My pics taken at the museum in 2015


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Live nearby? Ninja?

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Actually yea i play golf there on weekends

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But yea i live in bloem

2018-12-14 16:37:27 UTC

Nice man, I miss SA golf. There is only one golf course here in Europe where I am currently and you've got to pay 14000 rand just to get a "green card" to play on the course otherwise you're limited to the driving range.

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thats super bad damn

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i think you should come back😜

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I'm supposed to come back next year but we'll see.

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haha oky

2018-12-14 16:58:09 UTC

Current WIP of the Vektor R4 (early Galil version with wooden grip and carry handle) The standard R4 that Kooij posted reference material of will be made as well which will be easy as the changes aren't major. I'm including both the early Galil variant and the later standard R4 variant for variety along with the R5 for crewmen kits.


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Late version master race

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Fuck that carry handle kak

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I agree the Vektor R4 with the polymer grip and no carry handle looks far better

2019-03-06 06:22:48 UTC

anyone willing to teach someone how to do 3d modeling for A3 😬

2019-03-06 11:25:19 UTC

You will have to ask @Springbok if he can but he has bin a bit quiet lately

2019-03-06 16:31:05 UTC

@warmaster2143 thank you πŸ˜ƒ @Springbok would you mind helping me if you can and have free time? Even if its sending me links to tutorials or any type of learning material

2019-03-07 01:11:41 UTC

Hi guys. Sorry been awfully quiet for so long.

Just a recap of the models currently in progress. Keep in mind I'm the sole modeler at the moment so progress is awfully slow. I am trying to build up a team but it is quite difficult finding experienced modelers to help work on the mod.

As you guys have seen before the Buffel is the closest model to being completed but I'm kind of stuck on it at the moment due to the complexity of it. With the exposed engine compartment and so on. So I've decided to move on to the Eland 90 and Casspir since they seem like far easier challenges for me.


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@Springbok my dear sir please remove that artrocious carey handle kak from my beautiful R4 😁 😁

2019-03-07 14:21:42 UTC

@Kooijpolloi 😝 There will be the proper R4 version without the carry handle don't worry.

2019-03-07 15:25:06 UTC

@Springbok i would have love to join your modeling team and assis, i just dont know how to do modeling but would love to πŸ˜”

2019-03-07 15:28:17 UTC

Hey man, I was the same once. If you're keen to learn how to model then I suggest you watch as many modeling tutorials out there. As that is what I did when I first got started and slowly but surely learned the workflow. It took me awhile though, but everyone learns at different paces.

2019-03-07 15:37:32 UTC

@Rooikat We might live stream for the first time tonight and show some live modelling https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm5-7KL5MunRoPMmH9Ba_CA

2019-03-07 16:53:27 UTC

@Springbok and @warmaster2143 awsome thanks a lot i will definately look at the turorials and get behind the basics and then take it the next step. Ill keep anneye open for the libe stream tonight

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Little bit of progress on the Casspir today.


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Excellent @Springbok

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One thing though

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Most SADF infantry never used the casspir

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Only buffel for army

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Only after angola did infantry start using the casspir extensively

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@Kooijpolloi Ah didn't know that. Although there are images of troops maybe Koevoet? In nutria uniforms sitting on a Casspir here

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All koevoet

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Talked to an ex tiffie about it

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Ah alright. No worries there as I'll be including Koevoet as well

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They werent even allowed to repair or work on casspirs

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The tiffies?

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Only noddys ratels and buffels

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Tiffie is a mechanic

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A soultiffie is a priest

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Ja I know. Didn't know that the tiffies weren't allowed to work on the Casspirs

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Not the army ones

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He said the shittest job on a ratel was changing the diffs

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I can imagine! I've been reading Eye of the Firestorm by Roland de Vries. (thick ass book) and he mentions the Tiffies on numerous occasions

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Yeah on the KwΓͺvoΓ«ls

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The KwΓͺvoΓ«l is going to be an absolute monster to model... I'm leaving it for last 😬

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Ja good luck man 😁

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Thanks! I'll need it.

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@Kooijpolloi Looks like 101 Battalion used Casspirs as seen here

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Hmm nice

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Incoming update on the Casspir in two mikes

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Jirr did you sleep lol

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Nope 😐

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I model late at night. No distractions that way.... As my PC is in the lounge at the moment. Am going to move my PC into my bedroom soon

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And also getting a new PC so I can finally move on from this potato.

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hahaba he said potato

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Hahaha nice

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Im trying to get a job so i can get some fuckin internet again

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Agh shame man. Good luck with that china.

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lets give him an apple

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you have to laugh once a while

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@Springbok yeah the KwΓͺvoel is going to be hectic

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But you can do iiiiittttttπŸ˜€

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will we have guns on top or not

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@Boomninja Yes there will be.

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oky cool

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@Boomninja You wanted to see whether weapons would be mounted on the Casspir? Well here is a taste. This is the M2a1 which'll be on there along with the M1919, FN MAG and a few others. Luckily I don't have to model most of them as they are already in Squad. Although the m1919 is in Post Scriptum... Not sure if I can use that in a Squad mod otherwise I'll just model my own m1919.

The shield will of course change as that is a modern version not seen on the Casspir


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Looks like there is some interest in using this in the troopers mod @Springbok

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Trooper mod?

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its arc trooper mod. its like the movie arc troopers

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