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2017-10-16 05:20:43 UTC

hard men for hard times

2017-10-16 05:21:49 UTC

gentlemen, it has been a pleasure, im going to clock out for the evening, gotta pay the man in the morning

2017-10-16 05:22:17 UTC

cya

2017-10-16 20:00:33 UTC

Has anyone considered the Burnham Master Plan?

2017-10-17 00:01:20 UTC

Shame it didn't work out

2017-10-17 01:18:25 UTC

Some notes I have on government roles in a free society

2017-10-17 01:19:28 UTC

- The preservation of freedom requires the elimination of concentrations of power to the fullest possible extent and the dispersal and distribution of whatever power cannot be eliminated - a system of checks and balances.

2017-10-17 01:20:22 UTC

- There are some matters in which proportional representation is impossible thus we must discuss, argue and vote. But having made a decision there must be conformity. If the use of resources for such indivisible cases becomes necessary then we must employ political channels to reconcile the differences.

2017-10-17 01:21:42 UTC

- Unfortunately the use of political channels tends to strain the social cohesion essential for a stable society. The strain is least if agreement for joint action need be reached only on a limited range of issues on which people in any event have common views. Every extension of the range of issues for which explicit agreement is sought strains further the delicate threads that hold society together. If it goes so far as to touch an issue on which men feel deeply yet differently, it may well disrupt the society.

2017-10-17 01:21:54 UTC

- Fundamental differences in basic values can seldom if ever be resolved at the ballot box; ultimately they can only be decided, by conflict.

2017-10-17 01:22:14 UTC

- The widespread use of the market reduces the strain on the social fabric by rendering conformity unnecessary with respect to any activities it encompasses. The wider the range of activities covered by the market, the fewer are the issues on which explicitly political decisions are required and hence on which it is necessary to achieve agreement. In turn, the fewer the issues on which agreement is necessary, the greater is the likelihood of getting agreement while maintaining a free society.

2017-10-17 01:22:25 UTC

- Society requires that its members agree on the general conditions that will govern relations among them. Enforcing compliance on the accepted rules and interpreting arbitrary situations.

2017-10-17 01:22:34 UTC

- Rules cannot prevail unless most participants conform to them most of the time but there canโ€™t be a reliance on the conformity.

2017-10-17 01:23:04 UTC

- Menโ€™s Freedom can conflict, and when they do, it must be acknowledged that one manโ€™s freedom must be limited to preserve anotherโ€™s.

2017-10-17 02:23:54 UTC

It kind of did work out, though. Most of the lakefront is public property, and we have a very well defined grid system in place.

2017-10-17 02:24:09 UTC

He just didn't anticipate cars

2017-10-17 02:42:37 UTC

Chicago is a really cool place to visit as a tourist

2017-10-18 08:59:53 UTC

And honestly, it's not as bad to live in, as long as you live in white areas.

2017-10-18 09:00:01 UTC

Which there are plenty of.

2017-10-19 02:56:56 UTC

How not to found your ethnostate:

2017-10-19 02:57:04 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363749894802112513/370404960518668298/image.png

2017-10-19 02:57:11 UTC

lol

2017-10-19 02:57:22 UTC

>โ€œWe came here to live as human beingsโ€ฆ. free of the corporations that [control] countriesโ€ฆ. weโ€™re human beings, we belong in the sun. I belong in the tropics. Iโ€™m a tropical human being, you cannot stop me from being on the earth. I donโ€™t belong to Costa Ricaโ€ฆ.. I donโ€™t belong to Americaโ€ฆ. I belong to the earthโ€
>Too woke to obtain a visa

2017-10-19 02:58:49 UTC

why are they in jail?

2017-10-19 02:59:02 UTC

"we belong in the sun"

2017-10-19 02:59:03 UTC

tards

2017-10-19 02:59:05 UTC

literally

2017-10-19 03:00:21 UTC

@Orchid they relocated to Costa Rica without bothering to obtain legal visas

2017-10-19 03:00:55 UTC

Because citizenship is an oppressive white social construct

2017-10-19 03:01:04 UTC

lol

2017-10-19 03:03:38 UTC

>literally have an entire continent upon which they can found an ethnostate
>Move to the most developed, westernized country in Central America, because We Waz Taรญno-Carib Seafarers

2017-10-19 15:00:10 UTC

WE WUZ KANGS N SHIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

2017-10-21 05:56:51 UTC

Asking again, has any specific location in the northwest been discussed at all as far as the start of the homesteading?

2017-10-21 05:58:13 UTC

some have been talked about, i suggest scrolling up to read some of the past conversations

2017-10-21 05:58:29 UTC

Will do.

2017-10-21 05:59:02 UTC

The columbia valley in BC is very good.

2017-10-21 06:00:04 UTC

Wouldn't Alaska be better for large land buys? More isolated and if we're smart with greenhouse farms we should be able to farm 365 days a year

2017-10-21 06:01:15 UTC

If you're doing Alaska you may as well do the Yukon where land is free.

2017-10-21 06:01:25 UTC

Or are we looking for an already established town to flood with hard working migrants (us)?

2017-10-21 06:01:55 UTC

Federal owned territory though?

2017-10-21 06:02:11 UTC

And by federal, I mean it's Canadian federal land

2017-10-21 06:03:56 UTC

Yes

2017-10-21 06:04:04 UTC

But they want people to develop it

2017-10-21 06:04:15 UTC

They honestly don;t care who.

2017-10-21 06:04:17 UTC

read through <#359432753474699274>, we are going to an existing town

2017-10-21 06:04:36 UTC

But wouldn't we be at the mercy of the Canadian government in Yukon?

2017-10-21 06:04:37 UTC

What population?

2017-10-21 06:04:54 UTC

@Orchid didn't see the objective tab, will check now thank you

2017-10-21 06:04:54 UTC

Not if we are doing a good job developing the land.

2017-10-21 06:05:19 UTC

we've discussed population sizes above, I would say under 5,000 is preferrable

2017-10-21 06:06:03 UTC

Alaska and yukon have harsher climate, there's a reason theyre empty after all

2017-10-21 06:07:13 UTC

2017-10-21 06:07:58 UTC

What about choosing two communities on both sides of the Canada-US border?

2017-10-21 06:08:06 UTC

Make sure they are close enough

2017-10-21 06:08:12 UTC

@Bellerophon was just thinking the same thing

2017-10-21 06:08:19 UTC

That way, we dont have to worry as much about visas

2017-10-21 06:08:40 UTC

Alaskan side for living and Canadian (Yukon) for free farm land

2017-10-21 06:08:49 UTC

Thats an idea

2017-10-21 06:09:10 UTC

Or the BC/WA/Idaho border

2017-10-21 06:09:28 UTC

2017-10-21 06:09:55 UTC

if theres enough demand we can have multiple communities

2017-10-21 06:10:04 UTC

it all depends on where people want to go

2017-10-21 06:10:27 UTC

but keep in mind that the final decision will come down to the people who will actually make the move

2017-10-21 06:11:18 UTC

Of course

2017-10-21 06:11:39 UTC

We might want to look at the Columbia Valley region of BC/WA

2017-10-21 06:12:02 UTC

Would be better to have multiple communities wouldn't it? Trade and cooperation between them

2017-10-21 06:12:04 UTC

It's got a decent climate, good land, and not as susceptible to earthquakes as the coast.

2017-10-21 06:13:32 UTC

@Bellerophon have a look at aidomes, prefab concrete structures, earthquake proof domes, if our structures are built like this than earthquakes shouldn't affect us much

2017-10-21 06:13:56 UTC

Not very comfy tbh

2017-10-21 06:14:05 UTC

I want my comfy trad timberframe home.

2017-10-21 06:14:06 UTC

They look comfy enough

2017-10-21 06:14:37 UTC

Plus they are crazy durable and extremely heat /cold insulating

2017-10-21 06:15:29 UTC

Just need to make concrete templates and we can build hundreds of them ourselves

2017-10-21 13:30:44 UTC

What do you guys think about Patagonia (Argentinian Patagonia)?

2017-10-21 13:32:39 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363749894802112513/371289685332459520/6030604778_abb650bb47_z.jpg

2017-10-21 13:35:15 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363749894802112513/371290341363679232/chile-patagonia-torres-del-paine-sil_8bda597695795aac4610cf2f04f713cf.jpg

2017-10-21 13:46:55 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363749894802112513/371293275736244225/-2.jpeg

2017-10-21 15:49:00 UTC

Some of the the areas look just like Europe and there is already a heavy German presence they, but moving to another country is a whole other can of worms. America is not yet completely lost. The Northern part of the country from coast to coast is still mostly salvageable.

2017-10-21 16:39:41 UTC

Beautiful and I really want to go there but Patagonia is one of the last options for an ethno state in my opinion, just before Antarctica.

The relocation (only) to a completely foreign land where one doesn't speak the language is far more difficult than moving to for example the US.

2017-10-22 00:23:34 UTC

Patagonia is very nice, maybe someone will start their own white ethnostate there someday.

2017-10-22 00:48:25 UTC

I moved to quebec with only english, you pick up suoer fast

2017-10-22 02:46:33 UTC

I know enough spanish to mostly understand the taco goblins in my city.

2017-10-22 04:03:32 UTC

3 pronged idea. Get the land. Build a tavern, stay in the tavern while we build our houses. Hire bitches to fuck. Do a homesteading "rough and ready town" where people can experience the "rough life". Offer a campground, fishing, kayaking, hunting, etc, all walled off from White World. Occasionally we'll redpill people and reduce the size of the campgrounds to accomodate more White folk as necessary.

2017-10-22 04:31:54 UTC

Not bad, but no need to hire women. We'll all just bring our own.

2017-10-22 04:36:02 UTC

So youre saying that town could have some tourism potential? Specifically red-pill tourism

2017-10-22 04:40:01 UTC

Offering outdoor activities is a good way to allow people to see what kind of a community it was.

2017-10-22 05:20:56 UTC

We could invited white advocacy groups like TWP to visit so their members can learn survival and agrarian skills and network with like-minded people. It could serve the additional purpose of more or less a retreat center for nationalists.

2017-10-22 14:47:45 UTC

Redpill tourism is huge its not just tourism but if you had a venue large enough to hold speakers (such as richard spencer or jared taylor just as an example) like they already do across the country...you would be able to basically run the ethnostate off that... charge visitors 500 a week and they would love it...thats basically one of the benefits to creating this society first is that you can have an established regular income source from outside normies

2017-10-22 15:29:38 UTC

I was thinking something similar from the get go, a lot of these groups both big and small would love having a place to hold meetings and film themselves holding rallies and marches through a town setting and such for propaganda without having to worry about antifa showing up. They could also do work trips and help with our agricultural during summer for self-improvement.

2017-10-22 15:38:03 UTC

its a no brainer and also the best free advertisement to like minded people....except there are a lot of boomers that will show up lol

2017-10-22 16:48:08 UTC

A regular income source would be good,but won't we want to ultimately become independent of USD?

2017-10-22 16:49:23 UTC

yes, but that would take a lot of time and effort

2017-10-22 17:05:40 UTC

We would be better off stockpiling rare metals and supplies for when the US collapses. That way all we need is a mint and we'll have our own non-fiat money.

2017-10-22 17:06:50 UTC
2017-10-22 17:06:56 UTC

^thse guys produce their own coins

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