The broad lath leads to destruction, you must follow Jesus and his teachings

Steve if you are religious in the Aristotelian sense and not the cultic sense then that's fine

Jesus was a fraud

He took the good word of Raven and thrashed it around like a soggy towel

Do you not understand the pain just saying that will do to the Christians reading this. You should make it clear this is your personal belief.

You’re entitled to your opinion, @A13X but unless you can prove Jesus was a fraud, I would thank you to keep that to yourself.

Why are you guys so much more calm and collective talking to infidels but fellow Christians with a different understanding of theology will burn in the fiery puts of hell

Totally agree. Keep it to yourself or make it clear this is just a personal belief.

I prefer to save them from that. Attacking them with verses of scripture about Hell does not help them.

@Hamburger Guy because believers can deliver greater wounds than enemies ever could.

Sticks and stones may break my bones but the truth will always hurt a Christian

That sounds so empty to me. Thanks for your opinion.

Like you some Christians will get angry but it does not actually hurt them. And you know not truth. We all are just learning to the best of our ability.

My opinion is more of a fact

And that above is a fact

Yawn.

Jk lol

No it is not a fact. Just your personal belief. You provide no proof nor could you. It is not a provable fact.

To be fair the Reformation was a bloody time fighting about really vague theological things but it makes sense considering many of these theological questions were not just affecting life and death but eternal life and eternal suffering

Would a Unitarian go to hell according to trinitarians and vice versa?

You guys wanna hear a joke?

If yes, then these questions really do matter.

Getting people to fight amongst themselves is very useful for those in charge. Divide and conquer.

What’s the difference between a camel and a horse?

If I load up my horse with a hump of items it becomes a camel.

You can feel a horse steadily get more tired overtime

A camel seems perfect Italy fine until it suddenly collapses and you're in the middle of the Sahara

Good luck training a Camel. If you think training a horse is hard forget trying to train a camel. Though if you could do it there are a lot of benefits to riding a camel instead of a horse.

Benefits?

You get on it and it goes up. It can drink a lot of water so you do not need to get it water all that often and the same with food it eats less often and less than a horse.

They do not like being separated from their friends. Their mind is more interesting than a horse but more belligerent as well.

This is an interesting conversation

Literally everyone's opinions about religion is exactly that. We all interpret religious texts as we want to and think we understand it, based on our foundational paradigms.

I loved this

Jeezy boy died for our sins

Jesus, yes.

Yeezy

@Human Sheeple All religious traditions have easily quotable, incriminating verses.

That verse you quoted is true. However you’re forgetting that the people who inhabited the promised land weren’t human beings. They were giants.

Numbers 13:33

**Numbers 13:33 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<33> And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. ```

Otherwise actual Christians are expected to follow Exodus 20:13

**Exodus 20:13 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<13> Thou shalt not kill. ```

Period.

Wait what? I didnt know there were giants in the bible

Im actually interested now

a lot of scripture is a war between nephilite seed and human seed

the giants were pure evil,being abominations not meant to exist

So when were they around?

and THAT is why in the OT you see God telling the israelites to kill every man woman and child.

God is not a genocidal maniac.

God wants purity.

that's what people like richard dawkins won't ever tell you.

the giants/nephilim then became demons after they died, their spirits had nowhere to go.

thats why in New Testament you see demons and in Old testament you see Giants.

Ok that explains the killing command thing

because the demons were alive back then

Genesis 3:15

**Genesis 3:15 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<15> And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. ```

That certainly isn't how Sunday school explained the verse, but interesting

guys, didn't Gen 3:15 say Crush it's head and not bruise?

hold up.

i think we may have been mandela'd

Why couldnt go kill the spirits though.

how would you kill a spirit

only God can do that

While exactly. I had a typo up there go should be god

because they will be destroyed later

Exodus 20:13 cjb

**Exodus 20:13 - Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)**

```Dust


ו <13> "Do not murder. ז <(14)> "Do not commit adultery. ח <(15)> "Do not steal. ט <(16)> "Do not give false evidence against your neighbor. ```

it is not Judgment time yet.

Oh that makes sense

Genesis 3:15 cjb

**Genesis 3:15 - Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)**

```Dust


<15> I will put animosity between you and the woman, and between your descendant and her descendant; he will bruise your head, and you will bruise his heel."```

I still have no idea what that means

No one really does. Lots of suppositions.

Lol i see

I have a lot of heads to bruise

it means the seed of the serpent will be destroyed

apparently the NIv says crush and not bruise, but i don't trust NIV

Oh whatever that story was allright then

anyways, yeah

fallen angels had sex with women.

Alot of this seems similar to greek culture. Did they influence each other in ways

Genesis 6:4

**Genesis 6:4 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<4> There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. ```

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שׁוּף
shûph
BDB Definition:
1) to bruise, crush, gape upon, desire?, seize?, strike out?
1a) (Qal) to fall upon, bruise

I read about that

if someone tells you sons of God in OT means humans, they are WRONG

They made blood sucking monstrosities

Lol

Job 38:1-7

**Job 38:1-7 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<1> Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, <2> Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? <3> Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. <4> Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. <5> Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? <6> Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; <7> When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? ```

Some see this as an inner struggle and the serpent as our spinal cord.

no this is literal mate

the sons of God were there at the creation

So there were actually more than one son of god. Interesting

angels.

no no no.