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2019-06-23 00:45:37 UTC

Yep that one

2019-06-23 00:45:48 UTC

All the scripture you will ever want

2019-06-23 00:46:03 UTC

its a great intro to the subject

2019-06-23 00:46:20 UTC

there is also a deeper teaching on the matter

2019-06-23 00:46:27 UTC

Bibleman also quoted convincing parts though

2019-06-23 00:46:29 UTC

here this is for you

2019-06-23 00:47:07 UTC

Also check my religion roles and you'll be disappointed

2019-06-23 00:47:48 UTC

im never disappointed in you Burger.. <:BigGrin:507986757753634826>

2019-06-23 00:48:15 UTC

I'm proud of you burger

2019-06-23 00:49:04 UTC

@UltimateLifeformGappy lol I just noticed your gay agenda role

2019-06-23 00:56:56 UTC

<:cool:507986727953235970>

2019-06-23 00:57:37 UTC

now i know why, he just references verses without laying them out, so you donโ€™t even know. he moves so fast you donโ€™t even have time to question it

2019-06-23 00:58:58 UTC

Thats unethical to do in debates by the way. You probably shouldnt do that

2019-06-23 01:00:49 UTC

same with insulting people ๐Ÿ™„

2019-06-23 01:02:35 UTC

Sooo Gappy is a fapper?

2019-06-23 01:02:46 UTC

๐Ÿคฉ

2019-06-23 01:03:42 UTC

Speak English

2019-06-23 01:03:54 UTC

Oh that gappy

2019-06-23 01:04:00 UTC

Gappy know what i mean. ๐Ÿฅณ

2019-06-23 01:04:02 UTC

Iโ€™m looking up the verses he is quoting and I donโ€™t even see what heโ€™s claiming Iโ€™m suppose to see. apparently the death of christ is attributed to โ€œThe Fatherโ€ in Psalms 22:15

2019-06-23 01:04:03 UTC

**Psalm 22:15 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<15> my mouth is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death. ```

2019-06-23 01:05:21 UTC

I would never do such a thing

2019-06-23 01:05:26 UTC

Are Calvinists unitarian

2019-06-23 01:05:29 UTC

and it has nothing to do with that. like, the dude doesnโ€™t even show the verses. I donโ€™t even think we disagree as much as you think. I believe that Jesus is the incarnation of the word of God in the flesh, I just donโ€™t believe heโ€™s equal to God, heโ€™s the son of God, just one part of the father, in all intents and purposes its a matter of semantics

2019-06-23 01:08:34 UTC

Not really

2019-06-23 01:10:02 UTC

he literally only actually showed a single verse in genesis, and just listed a bunch of verses that he claimed supported his argument without actually showing it. its no wonder you cant explain it to me because he didnโ€™t either

2019-06-23 01:10:43 UTC

iโ€™ll watch the others now, lets see if he actually shows us the verses this time

2019-06-23 01:11:10 UTC

A single verse is more than no verse

2019-06-23 01:12:08 UTC

God yer a total wanker

2019-06-23 01:12:15 UTC

Seriously dew

2019-06-23 01:13:26 UTC

What if during Armageddon God doesnt come to earth as the Son but an entirely new form

2019-06-23 01:13:38 UTC

That would bring the number from 3 to 4

2019-06-23 01:14:00 UTC

Aint gonna happen

2019-06-23 01:14:13 UTC

He will come as expected

2019-06-23 01:30:47 UTC

1 Cor 15:27-28 (NASB)

For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, โ€œAll things are put in subjection,โ€ it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

2019-06-23 01:32:01 UTC

John 17:1-4 (NASB)

Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, โ€œFather, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You, even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life. This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do.

2019-06-23 01:32:03 UTC

**John 17:1-4 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust
Jesus Prays for His Disciples

<1> After Jesus had spoken these words, he looked up to heaven and said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son so that the Son may glorify you, <2> since you have given him authority over all people, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. <3> And this is eternal life, that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. <4> I glorified you on earth by finishing the work that you gave me to do. ```

2019-06-23 01:33:51 UTC

this guy makes a very good post about it, which essentially goes over most of the things i went over. i donโ€™t think the distinction matters much at all in a practical sense

2019-06-23 01:34:23 UTC

but apparently its worth insulting me multiple times for him ๐Ÿ™„

2019-06-23 01:37:04 UTC

i just started researching the topic myself after being taught the trinity my whole life. i donโ€™t even necessarily disagree with it in concept, only the idea that the 3 parts are all equal, its just intellectually dishonest to act like its an open and shut case. there wouldnโ€™t be division about it for 2000 years if it was so simple. Iโ€™m being open minded about it, you are not

2019-06-23 01:45:28 UTC

K

2019-06-23 01:52:27 UTC

why even post if you have nothing to say? well i guess youโ€™d never post anything by those standards

2019-06-23 01:58:50 UTC
2019-06-23 02:00:37 UTC

Oh no he got me

2019-06-23 02:13:15 UTC

give it a rest DEW.. we are done with Trinity arguments for a while

2019-06-23 02:13:53 UTC

im gonna delete anymore spamming yer stuff. lets give it a rest like CIT Zzz said

2019-06-23 02:23:47 UTC

Yeah let's talk about something more interesting

2019-06-23 02:26:07 UTC

Go on then, say something interesting. A first time for everything

2019-06-23 02:28:13 UTC

Rude

2019-06-23 02:33:33 UTC

thanks for your virtue signals, i canโ€™t wait for you to virtue signal more. maybe one day youโ€™ll say something of substance for the first time

2019-06-23 02:34:13 UTC

I don't think you could handle my hot takes babe. I just like listening.

2019-06-23 02:35:31 UTC

A globe earther with nothing to say, color me surprised

2019-06-23 04:32:08 UTC

A weird day for this channel isnt it

2019-06-23 14:00:56 UTC

Matthew 28:19

2019-06-23 14:00:57 UTC

**Matthew 28:19 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<19> Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: ```

2019-06-23 14:07:01 UTC

1 John 5:7

2019-06-23 14:07:02 UTC

**1 John 5:7 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<7> For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. ```

2019-06-23 14:14:54 UTC

1 John 5:7 is an added verse, added in the 2nd century

2019-06-23 14:14:55 UTC

**1 John 5:7 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<7> For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. ```

2019-06-23 14:15:27 UTC

Itโ€™s canon.

2019-06-23 14:15:27 UTC

the whole chapter is about the water and the blood, and keeping away from idols

2019-06-23 14:15:36 UTC

it was a footnote that was added in

2019-06-23 14:16:35 UTC

Scripture is scripture. Not my problem you want to exclude verses you donโ€™t like.

2019-06-23 14:16:45 UTC

it's obviously added

2019-06-23 14:17:02 UTC

Iโ€™ll take Godโ€™s word over yours.

2019-06-23 14:17:05 UTC

even if it wasn't added, the Word isn't Jesus

2019-06-23 14:17:15 UTC

the Word is God's Wisdom

2019-06-23 14:17:39 UTC

1526 Tyndale Bible

2019-06-23 14:17:42 UTC

Revelation 19:13

2019-06-23 14:17:43 UTC

**Revelation 19:13 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<13> And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. ```

2019-06-23 14:17:57 UTC

Jesus is the fulfilment of God's promise

2019-06-23 14:18:49 UTC

John 1:14

2019-06-23 14:18:50 UTC

**John 1:14 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<14> And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, ) full of grace and truth. ```

2019-06-23 14:19:01 UTC

John 1:15

2019-06-23 14:19:01 UTC

**John 1:15 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<15> John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. ```

2019-06-23 14:19:09 UTC

John 1:7

2019-06-23 14:19:10 UTC

**John 1:7 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<7> The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. ```

2019-06-23 14:19:21 UTC

he had to bear WITNESS of the Word becoming flesh

2019-06-23 14:19:37 UTC

the BAPTISM is the Word becoming flesh

2019-06-23 14:19:46 UTC

when the SPIRIT went into Jesus

2019-06-23 14:20:02 UTC

this isn't to do with any incarnation

2019-06-23 14:20:17 UTC

incarnation is unbiblical

2019-06-23 14:20:21 UTC

The Spirit was already in him when he was born. The spirit dwelt on him after baptism.

2019-06-23 14:20:50 UTC

he was baptized and received the Spirit

2019-06-23 14:20:58 UTC

John had the Spirit since the womb.

2019-06-23 14:21:04 UTC

John the Baptist

2019-06-23 14:22:18 UTC

the Bible says at a young age Jesus was developing wisdom and favor with God

2019-06-23 14:22:33 UTC

God needed to gain his own favor

2019-06-23 14:22:39 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2019-06-23 14:23:11 UTC

John kicked in his motherโ€™s womb when Jesus was near in Maryโ€™s. John knew even as an infant God was near.

2019-06-23 14:23:13 UTC

Luke 2:52

2019-06-23 14:23:14 UTC

**Luke 2:52 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<52> And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. ```

2019-06-23 14:23:50 UTC

John did not witness the virgin birth.

2019-06-23 14:23:59 UTC

he witnessed the Baptism, verse 15 explains that

2019-06-23 14:24:00 UTC

How else would you expect Godโ€™s word that became flesh to grow?

2019-06-23 14:24:28 UTC

Jesus is a man that fulfilled God's promise to David and to Abraham

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