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Yep that one
All the scripture you will ever want
its a great intro to the subject
there is also a deeper teaching on the matter
Bibleman also quoted convincing parts though
here this is for you
Also check my religion roles and you'll be disappointed
im never disappointed in you Burger.. <:BigGrin:507986757753634826>
I'm proud of you burger
@UltimateLifeformGappy lol I just noticed your gay agenda role
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now i know why, he just references verses without laying them out, so you donโt even know. he moves so fast you donโt even have time to question it
Thats unethical to do in debates by the way. You probably shouldnt do that
same with insulting people ๐
Sooo Gappy is a fapper?
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Speak English
Oh that gappy
Gappy know what i mean. ๐ฅณ
Iโm looking up the verses he is quoting and I donโt even see what heโs claiming Iโm suppose to see. apparently the death of christ is attributed to โThe Fatherโ in Psalms 22:15
**Psalm 22:15 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
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<15> my mouth is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death. ```
I would never do such a thing
Are Calvinists unitarian
and it has nothing to do with that. like, the dude doesnโt even show the verses. I donโt even think we disagree as much as you think. I believe that Jesus is the incarnation of the word of God in the flesh, I just donโt believe heโs equal to God, heโs the son of God, just one part of the father, in all intents and purposes its a matter of semantics
Not really
he literally only actually showed a single verse in genesis, and just listed a bunch of verses that he claimed supported his argument without actually showing it. its no wonder you cant explain it to me because he didnโt either
iโll watch the others now, lets see if he actually shows us the verses this time
A single verse is more than no verse
God yer a total wanker
Seriously dew
What if during Armageddon God doesnt come to earth as the Son but an entirely new form
That would bring the number from 3 to 4
Aint gonna happen
He will come as expected
1 Cor 15:27-28 (NASB)
For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, โAll things are put in subjection,โ it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
John 17:1-4 (NASB)
Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, โFather, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You, even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life. This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do.
**John 17:1-4 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
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Jesus Prays for His Disciples
<1> After Jesus had spoken these words, he looked up to heaven and said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son so that the Son may glorify you, <2> since you have given him authority over all people, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. <3> And this is eternal life, that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. <4> I glorified you on earth by finishing the work that you gave me to do. ```
this guy makes a very good post about it, which essentially goes over most of the things i went over. i donโt think the distinction matters much at all in a practical sense
but apparently its worth insulting me multiple times for him ๐
i just started researching the topic myself after being taught the trinity my whole life. i donโt even necessarily disagree with it in concept, only the idea that the 3 parts are all equal, its just intellectually dishonest to act like its an open and shut case. there wouldnโt be division about it for 2000 years if it was so simple. Iโm being open minded about it, you are not
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why even post if you have nothing to say? well i guess youโd never post anything by those standards
Roasted @UltimateLifeformGappy
Oh no he got me
give it a rest DEW.. we are done with Trinity arguments for a while
im gonna delete anymore spamming yer stuff. lets give it a rest like CIT Zzz said
Yeah let's talk about something more interesting
Go on then, say something interesting. A first time for everything
Rude
thanks for your virtue signals, i canโt wait for you to virtue signal more. maybe one day youโll say something of substance for the first time
I don't think you could handle my hot takes babe. I just like listening.
A globe earther with nothing to say, color me surprised
A weird day for this channel isnt it
Matthew 28:19
**Matthew 28:19 - King James Version (KJV)**
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<19> Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: ```
1 John 5:7
**1 John 5:7 - King James Version (KJV)**
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<7> For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. ```
1 John 5:7 is an added verse, added in the 2nd century
**1 John 5:7 - King James Version (KJV)**
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<7> For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. ```
Itโs canon.
the whole chapter is about the water and the blood, and keeping away from idols
it was a footnote that was added in
Scripture is scripture. Not my problem you want to exclude verses you donโt like.
it's obviously added
Iโll take Godโs word over yours.
even if it wasn't added, the Word isn't Jesus
the Word is God's Wisdom
1526 Tyndale Bible
Revelation 19:13
**Revelation 19:13 - King James Version (KJV)**
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<13> And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. ```
Jesus is the fulfilment of God's promise
John 1:14
**John 1:14 - King James Version (KJV)**
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<14> And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, ) full of grace and truth. ```
John 1:15
**John 1:15 - King James Version (KJV)**
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<15> John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. ```
John 1:7
**John 1:7 - King James Version (KJV)**
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<7> The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. ```
he had to bear WITNESS of the Word becoming flesh
the BAPTISM is the Word becoming flesh
when the SPIRIT went into Jesus
this isn't to do with any incarnation
incarnation is unbiblical
The Spirit was already in him when he was born. The spirit dwelt on him after baptism.
he was baptized and received the Spirit
John had the Spirit since the womb.
John the Baptist
the Bible says at a young age Jesus was developing wisdom and favor with God
God needed to gain his own favor
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John kicked in his motherโs womb when Jesus was near in Maryโs. John knew even as an infant God was near.
Luke 2:52
**Luke 2:52 - King James Version (KJV)**
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<52> And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. ```
John did not witness the virgin birth.
he witnessed the Baptism, verse 15 explains that
How else would you expect Godโs word that became flesh to grow?
Jesus is a man that fulfilled God's promise to David and to Abraham
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