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Preservation of a country's nationality should be priority, it improves the economy, even if it were to hurt the economy, which in no case does it do that, it should still be done.

illegals help growth therefore the economy is improved.

yeah great logic

fuck those homeless natives

no we're not talking about illegal immigration

that's separate

from high-skilled legal immigration

which studies show has a positive effect on the economy, innovation, the deficit, and more

the same logic still applies

That high skill immigration doesn’t have a positive effect on the country we pouched the talent from. Those people should stay in their home country and make it great. Stealing all the high end people from the rest of the world isn’t ethical.

brain drain is a problem but we have high-skill work shortages so that takes priority

I'd argue otherwise to the point of high-skill work shortages. When it comes to high skill there are usually enough native-borns who can occupy it, but are not able to not only because of programs such as affirmative action but for other reasons such as how tightly employers hire now (the type of degree/years of study being raised higher). When speaking of western countries, native-born citizens statistically have the intelligence/skill capacity to do such labor. In regards to how fit they are/how fit they present themselves, that's a matter of culture (not just entertainment and lifestyle but things such as the cost of housing, of getting that PhD required to do a job someone with a bachelors, an associates, and even a high school diploma can do

also, shortages are good as they mean there is a demand for workers. Take a look at the medical field and how almost a decade ago they went around saying they need more nurses, and look how quickly that filled up.

@David "Gaben" Cameron by the time natives can plug a skill shortage they've already imported too many foreigners for it to make sense to become trained in that field

Basically every programming or engineering job in the USA for instance

There is no shortage, they have to legally put job ads online but then get an H1B

true. I was speaking in the hypothetical situation where non-US citizens can come over to work whenever, however

Not only that but most high skill jobs aren't really a good choice for natives

Engineering and computer science really isn't worth the pay

Example?

Roosh did articles on it

He thinks most STEM jobs are a waste of time

http://www.rooshv.com/what-a-time-to-be-17-years-old

Obviously you will be paid more in STEM but your quality of life could be far greater in things like teaching, writing, digital nomad type stuff, things that give you free time

especially because of how tax rates work, if you make more, you get taxed a higher percentage of it

In regards to the current state of things, I understand. College tuition, housing prices, and tax rates do make a career in high skill trades such as engineering and computer science a difficult choice if one is not adept to it.

However, that does not make it ideal or necessary to discourage natives from persuing high-skill careers.

I'm saying the US Gov and private companies have discouraged us from doing so

Neither importing labor and approaching the heirarchy of labor with a state of mind that puts the industry, the corporation, the global market, before the nation's people

True. And I'm all for that changing.

The economy in the US (maybe more in the UK because of your tax rates) basically disincentivizes working hard

That's where culture comes in. Even with a skimming glance at history one can see ambition driving western culture up until the mid-twentieth century.

Well yeah but you incentivize it

Then after that economic prosperity and social movements and cultural shifts throughout the 50's-2000's encouraged a lull

My life would not be that much better if I were a multi-millionaire than if I were in my current situation

just a product of the times

How does that factor in into incentification or working hard? Working hard is one of those virtues that's pointless if there is no greater goal behind it, as is prosperity.

Because most things that generate wealth don't make the world better today

When I talk about putting natives first, I'm talking about strengthening the nation (the greater tribe, as it were) as a whole. Strengthening as in greater social cohesion through greater trust and more homogenous communities rather than atomized clusters of people living close to each other in the same place.

In regards to wealth, what good is it if it isn't put into use? Historically speaking, the upper classes used their wealth to build marvels, comission feats of cultural wonder and propel their civilizaiton forward. The nuveau riche we have as millionaries today have no sense of that same responsibility or pride in one's people or land. Unfortunately, there is this culture where the rich or the aspiring to be rich wish to head off to the bahammas and give away all their money to charity, leaving nothing for those at home or their children to inherit.

Hard work is a product of having a purpose, having something to struggle for. And in today's culture where the institutions are pushing for a more globalized society, what they provide to incentivize and give purpose to life is simply temporal bliss and living for the moment and for the self. Take, for example, charity. Many charities today embody nothing more than selfish selflessness: money goes elsewhere and not back into the neighborhood, the county, or the state, or the community, but elsewhere or to a bracket so specified yet general enough that the benefits are barely felt in the local population. Charity is not a one-way interaction, but a two way. In return for giving away wealth and resources, the giver recieves a sense of a higher moral status in his or her community, even though they have--in general--contributed little to the community itself

long gone are the days where wealthy families rewarded the communities that labored for them, and long gone are the old rich who had a connection to those who worked for them. But alas, I am soapboxing. But this is where I am coming from when I speak about reserving local jobs for local workers. It restores integrity and trust in the community, and naturally creates bonds among those living in the community rather than through weak methods like socials and cookouts that I see many communities try to do.

@David "Gaben" Cameron I agree.

@David "Gaben" Cameronbased

@iwantfun what happened with hillary server shtick?

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@warriorman8
Another server was "revealed"
The dems were covering for her

Corruption

Deep state

You mean

Whatever you want tocall it

Another email server

Yes

And they didnt say anything so she wouldnt look bad

These FBI documents concerning Steele were obtained via a FOIA request, are mostly redacted. However a few things are confirmed here. Steele was paid by the FBI for his contributions, but was let go after being “ verbal admonished ” for leaking information to the press. The FBI terminated their relationship with Steele on Nov 1 2016 deeming him untrustworthy. This is important because his Dossier and articles using it, or him, as a source were still used for months afterward to renew a FISA warrant for Surveillance on Trump. Even after they knew Steele was shady.
https://vault.fbi.gov/records-between-fbi-and-christopher-steele/records-between-fbi-and-christopher-steele-part-01-of-01/at_download/file

<#452955204313153556> maybe

https://www.tvguide.com/news/the-big-bang-theory-final-season-renewal-season-13-bill-prady-reaction/

🅱azinga

people who like that show are untermensch

“ who is ‘designated survivor ‘ at inauguration?”
By CNN

This Jan 18 news segment by CNN details exactly who you would need to kill at the 2017 presidential inauguration in order to keep the Obama administration in power.

Why would they tell their audience this?🤔
https://youtu.be/qxIG4dduqy0

is this news that they dislike Trump?

Not at all. @Deleted User it is however noteworthy that they laid out assassination plans for their audience.

@Deleted User Nice find

Thanks, @Da_Fish . People were talking about it a lot the day it came out, but it’s since been forgotten by most.

“ Apple banned Alex Jone’s Infowars. Then the dominos started to fall.” By Aja Romano on Vox

The media celebrates tech giants Facebook, Apple, YouTube and Spotify banning Alex Jones in under 24hrs. Clear coordination of censorship. Vox, and others are using orwellian terms like “ permissible free speech” to justify corporate censorship on a political basis.

http://archive.today/mkYSZ

Vox == Anti-American socialists

Pretty much. Not that you can’t say the sane about a lot of the media.

@Deleted User Vox is near bankruptcy

I am glad

Feels good @Da_Fish

“ Facebook to banks: Give us your data, we’ll give you our users”

Facebook digs deeper into your personal information. Attempting to get financial information from your bank without your permission. Facebook is trying to get its claws into every aspect of your life.

http://archive.today/KIfmp

“ Materials from inquiry into circumstances surrounding Trump Tower meeting “ by the Senate Judiciary Committee

This investigation is interesting for a few reasons.

1. It confirms that Glenn Simpson , of Fusion GPS, the company involved with collecting opposition research on Trump , met with Russian government linked lawyer Veselnitskaya right before, and after, her meeting with Trump Jr at Trump Tower.

2. It illuminates Fusions GPS as a company that’s paid to manipulate journalists to write, or not write articles for their clients. It also shows their business practices regarding the initiating of government investigations on behalf of their clients interests.

Was the meeting of Glenn Simpson and Veselnitskaya directly before and after a bizarre coincidence? Or was Fusion GPS planning a set up to further their clients agenda?

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/releases/materials-from-inquiry-into-circumstances-surrounding-trump-tower-meeting

“ Emails: Lawyer who met Trump jr. tied to Russian officials “
By Raphael Satter on AP Associated Press

Natalia Veselnitskaya representing Prevezon Holdings on behalf of the sole owner Denis Katsyv, hired BakerHostetler to represent them against charges of money laundering and violating The Magnitsky Act. In 2014 Baker hired Fusion GPS to dig up opposition research on Bill Browder, author of the Magnitsky Act, and a witness central to the U.S. Justice Department’s case against Prevezon. Fusion was working with Veselnitskaya at the same time they hired Christopher Steele on the behalf of the Clinton campaign to extract damaging information on Trump from his contacts in Russian intelligence. They were also still working together during the Trump Tower meetings . Meeting the day before, and after that event. Fusion GPS has demonstrated that they have no moral compass, and have directly colluded , in a years long professional relationship, with Veselnitskaya, who represents a Russian oligarch tied to Putin and the murder of Magnitsky.

Knowing that Fusion GPS is basically a morally bankrupt corporation of Intelligence mercenaries, can we trust them as a source of truth on those they’re hired to slander?

Something to consider.

http://archive.today/BWyrS

“ Infowars app still in Google, Apple stores after companies move against other content “ by Paul Murphy on CNN

CNN is upset that Infowars hasn’t completely been banned from the internet. They are attempting to put pressure on Apple and Google to completely ban them. When this article was written, the Infowars app had surpassed the CNN app on Apple taking the number 4 spot. Now Infowars is number 1. CNN can’t handle the competition, and is seeking to ban them in a vain hope they can save their failing network. Sad.

http://archive.today/8EXDK

This Rosie O’ Donnell mental breakdown on CNN is hilarious! She actually claimed that Trump rigged the elections, and is planning to do it again! She also claimed that Trump only has large rallies because they’re all paid actors!😂🤣😂
https://youtu.be/Zmmg5lNUYXk

Trump fired Comey at the recommendation of Attorney General, and Deputy Attorney General, Jeff Sessions and Rod J. Rosenstien for his handling of the conclusion of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails, and his refusal to acknowledge his mistakes.

He “ usurped” the Attorney Generals authority on July 5, 2016 by announcing in his conclusion of the case that it should be closed without prosecution. At this press conference he released derogatory information about the subject of a declined criminal investigation. He also cast his decision as a choice between “ speaking “ or “ concealing “ the Clinton emails incorrectly.

This decision to fire Comey was backed by former Attorney and Deputy Attorney Generals Laurence Silberman, Jamie Gorelick, Micheal Mukasey , Eric Holder , Alberto Gonzales, Larry Thompson, and Donald Ayer.


https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3711116/White-House-Fires-James-Comey.pdf

“ Trump ramps up scrutiny of legal immigrants” by Lydia Wheeler on The Hill


The Hill deceptively attempts to conflate those that attained their citizenship legally, with those that got it through fraud and identity theft.

Credit to r/HeadlineCorrections
https://www.reddit.com/r/headlinecorrections

http://archive.today/E8jc7

“Candace Owens: Prominent Trump supporters chased out of restaurant by protesters “ by Cleve R Wootson jr on Independent

Independent attempts to downplay thugs, probably Antifa, physically assaulting Trump supporters by calling them “protesters”. They screamed in their faces and poured a drink on one of them.

Credit r/HeadlineCorrections
https://www.reddit.com/r/headlinecorrections

http://archive.today/TdWtD

@Deleted User from what i can tell regarding that hill article the uscis is trying to crack down on legal immigrants that illegally obtained citizenship, if they got lpr they are legal immigrants so the headline isn't inaccurate

the new uscis program seems ok even if it's not in uscis' jurisdiction tho, just maybe a waste of resources

I mostly agree with you on this @21tagtmeiern . The headline is TECHNICALLY true. But it’s still deceptive. Its meant to paint a picture of Trump attacking legitimate immigration. It’s like writing an article about a police force cracking down on shoplifting, and titling it “ Police ramp up scrutiny on customers that leave the store with product that they paid for “

https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/08/10/watch-street-artist-covers-hollywood-walk-of-fame-with-50-trump-stars/

http://archive.today/11ydo” Sorry liberals, a violent response to Trump is as logical as any” by Jesse Benn on HuffPost

Article justifies Antifa violence as a “ perfectly logical reaction “ and declares anyone against this violence as “ privileged “ and says “ Don’t be that liberal “. This is an endorsement of terrorism.

http://archive.today/11ydo