yeah.

hence why violence is required to achieve its goals

however i don't know how you'll get a lot of people on board seeing as most american DemSocs are pretty anti-white and whites make up the largest demographic in the blue-collar working class.

@Mahojo my point is, we've already been shown coops are inferior to normal companies via the free market

If you decide you like the idea, you're free to open your own company or join an existing coop

If anything lowering operating costs like government regulation would proliferate all companies including coops anyways

I will @Deleted User but what I'm saying is that other people should too. Also, what does this sentence mean?, 'If anything lowering operating costs like government regulation would proliferate all companies including coops anyways'

lower taxes = more private enterprise = higher # of coops

ok

Dem Socialists- The Party that manages to be hated by both Rightists and Socialists, amazing!

UnionsTM

@iwantfun just saying the whole south Africa targeting white farmers thing isn’t quite true, South America seized land because they couldn’t afford it and then a white supremacy group faked a list that showed all the “white farms” being targeted despite he list including farms owned by black people, the south African gov is in the wrong for seizure, not for targeting whites

What but that is the point do you not understand contracts or the constitution

I've been wondering about this one thing for like a week or so

What makes dictatorship any different from other kinds of authoritarianism like say absolute monarchy?

(besides the obvious part of monarchy being passed by inheritance and stuff like that)

Literally only the monarchist part

absolute monarchy = dictator monarch

ok

https://www.rt.com/usa/435796-dccc-bots-software-propaganda/ - share. Democrats paying operatives to flag and shut down right wing accounts.

oof

@iwantfun I said they’re on the wrong for seizure, I just the whole targeting whites thing that’s been used as clickbait by the media is misinformation and is merely a stunt of a supremacy group

Who other than whites are they taking from lol

Literally the supposed "list of white farms being targeted" released by the supremacy group that all the news articles have been treating like its real had black owned farms on it.

theyve only actually seized land from one farm so far and thats because they wre too poor to buy the land from them

The dollar should be disposed of and replaced with grams

By grams

I mean the gold standard

So, what do I say to someone who says there is no real scientific way to define human "races"?

I mean, there ARE differences between groups of people

but is the problem steming from the vague definition of "race"?

or is there really a concrete way I can say someone is a different race from me?

No, there is no way to scientifically decide how many race there are and to which one someone belongs.

There's also no real need to define people based upon "race"

Considering that the differences are rather minute...

I agree

It is scientifically the same level as assigning subspecies to animals.

Don't understand this "there's no way to define it" argument.

We can and do subdivide species in this way.

@Alice Redacted Nearly all scientists worldwide agree on the validity of race, and there are not just "minute" differences.

Are there hour differences?

😎

show me proof of consensus

https://www.ln.edu.hk/philoso/staff/sesardic/Race.pdf

it starts by stating that many scholars think that race is not biological

but i'll keep reading

My aim in this paper was not to prove the biological reality of race

also

that's a quote

We know that certain diseases are more common in certain races, and when placed in the same environment (in this case, the same country), we can see height, size, and even socio-economic differences between the races that are reflected similarly in other countries (ex. U.S. Hispanics to Mestizos in Mexico).

Furthermore, we can also associate certain genes and their frequencies with certain races.

Knowing all of these things, and knowing that they are indisputable facts, it is unlikely that race is simply a social construct, and what is more likely, however, is that the push to downplay it as such is rooted in political and ideological motivations @21tagtmeiern

It's similar to the Soviets refusing to accept evolution because it did not conform to communism's traditional belief set

Oh my, Irma is a taxonomist now too

Is there anything she wont LARP as?

"We know that certain diseases are more common in certain races, and when placed in the same environment (in this case, the same country), we can see height, size, and even socio-economic differences between the races that are reflected similarly in other countries (ex. U.S. Hispanics to Mestizos in Mexico)."

Have you ever considered that a majority of the other issues are related to socio-economic differences

and that further, the socio-economic differences are artificial, enforced through racist practices and historical bias?

For instance, centuries of slavery, followed by poor civil rights, followed by discriminator societal attitudes

I mean, it's been less than 50 years since de jure segregation ended

there's still tons of de facto segregation, lingering actual segregation, and racial biases in society

"Furthermore, we can also associate certain genes and their frequencies with certain races."

Yes, but the same for dynasties, and other traits

there's also just a natural degree of variation between people

50 years ago

ah

my bad

yeah, slightly over 50 now

No you're right I'm just saying that it's been a while

not even a lifetime

there aren't many effects of it

blacks bring themselves down

you can't bring an entire class out of poverty in 50 years without plenty of help

not white people

no, they don't

Yes they don't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r6GBo_7UNc

just watch that

for instance

it's rather insightful

when black people stop killing each other and start trying in life then I might believe you

but again

50 years ago is the *de jure* end to segregation

we're ignoring malicious practices

yes

like redlining, gentrification, predatory loaning, etc

that ended years ago

eh, not entirely

eh, yes

There's still plenty of racial biases in society

and, I emphasized again, not really

there's plenty of instances of it occurring in recent times

as you'll see if you watch that video

you can't just say

"no"

and deny blatant facts

but... whatever

I didn't say that people weren't still racist

I implied that it wasn't widespread and directly said that the effects of the past were gone

~8 minutes - ~15 minutes

The effects aren't

racial demographics from when redlining and such were in effect still linger