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No, there is no way to scientifically decide how many race there are and to which one someone belongs.
There's also no real need to define people based upon "race"
Considering that the differences are rather minute...
I agree
It is scientifically the same level as assigning subspecies to animals.
Don't understand this "there's no way to define it" argument.
We can and do subdivide species in this way.
@Alice Redacted Nearly all scientists worldwide agree on the validity of race, and there are not just "minute" differences.
Are there hour differences?
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show me proof of consensus
it starts by stating that many scholars think that race is not biological
but i'll keep reading
My aim in this paper was not to prove the biological reality of race
also
that's a quote
We know that certain diseases are more common in certain races, and when placed in the same environment (in this case, the same country), we can see height, size, and even socio-economic differences between the races that are reflected similarly in other countries (ex. U.S. Hispanics to Mestizos in Mexico).
Furthermore, we can also associate certain genes and their frequencies with certain races.
Knowing all of these things, and knowing that they are indisputable facts, it is unlikely that race is simply a social construct, and what is more likely, however, is that the push to downplay it as such is rooted in political and ideological motivations @21tagtmeiern
It's similar to the Soviets refusing to accept evolution because it did not conform to communism's traditional belief set
Oh my, Irma is a taxonomist now too
"We know that certain diseases are more common in certain races, and when placed in the same environment (in this case, the same country), we can see height, size, and even socio-economic differences between the races that are reflected similarly in other countries (ex. U.S. Hispanics to Mestizos in Mexico)."
Have you ever considered that a majority of the other issues are related to socio-economic differences
and that further, the socio-economic differences are artificial, enforced through racist practices and historical bias?
For instance, centuries of slavery, followed by poor civil rights, followed by discriminator societal attitudes
I mean, it's been less than 50 years since de jure segregation ended
there's still tons of de facto segregation, lingering actual segregation, and racial biases in society
"Furthermore, we can also associate certain genes and their frequencies with certain races."
Yes, but the same for dynasties, and other traits
there's also just a natural degree of variation between people
50 years ago
ah
my bad
yeah, slightly over 50 now
No you're right I'm just saying that it's been a while
not even a lifetime
there aren't many effects of it
blacks bring themselves down
you can't bring an entire class out of poverty in 50 years without plenty of help
not white people
no, they don't