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2018-08-03 17:18:26 UTC

minimum wage is so inflated in the US sometimes it's hard to even get that

2018-08-03 17:18:28 UTC

like in 2008

2018-08-03 17:18:37 UTC

I have some family members I would consider to be dumber than me and some I think are as smart as me

2018-08-03 17:18:44 UTC

Yeah same

2018-08-03 17:18:53 UTC

but if I look at my paternal line we're all generally above average

2018-08-03 17:18:53 UTC

My Iq is 154

2018-08-03 17:19:00 UTC

and maternal line we're all above average

2018-08-03 17:19:01 UTC

not high

2018-08-03 17:19:30 UTC

my IQ is 119 despite being in poverty while growing up with bad diet and bad exercise, my father drank and did drugs so his IQ dropped, but my grandfather on one side is an engineer, other is a prodigy computer scientist

2018-08-03 17:19:41 UTC

But that's anecdotal

2018-08-03 17:19:45 UTC

and more of a direct line

2018-08-03 17:19:50 UTC

than uncle vs nephew

2018-08-03 17:20:57 UTC

So I'm sure my father had an above average genetic potential in terms of IQ tbqh, because literally every male in the family has had that

2018-08-03 17:21:11 UTC

I'm arguing that you should always want the genetic potential to be there, and with hispanics/blacks it simply isn't.

2018-08-03 17:21:13 UTC

>when someone says you canโ€™t tell anything about someone just from their skull

2018-08-03 17:21:37 UTC

Average sub Saharan African IQ is 70

2018-08-03 17:21:40 UTC

Nigerians/Indians are highly elite subsamples which WOULD work

2018-08-03 17:21:46 UTC

Hispanic 85

2018-08-03 17:21:49 UTC

but we don't take elite subsamples for most

2018-08-03 17:21:50 UTC

yes

2018-08-03 17:21:56 UTC

70 means like 50% of them are retarded

2018-08-03 17:21:59 UTC

African American 76

2018-08-03 17:22:01 UTC

from european standards

2018-08-03 17:22:08 UTC

I heard african american was 85

2018-08-03 17:22:13 UTC

mostly due to admixture

2018-08-03 17:22:13 UTC

Europeans 100

2018-08-03 17:22:22 UTC

I think diminishing returns hit though

2018-08-03 17:22:24 UTC

Asian 105

2018-08-03 17:22:31 UTC

and a 5 point difference isn't big

2018-08-03 17:22:37 UTC

definitely nowhere near 85 vs 100

2018-08-03 17:22:55 UTC

so that 5 point difference between E Asians and Whites is more negligible due to the diminishing returns than the 95 vs 100

2018-08-03 17:22:59 UTC

The jungle doesnโ€™t build intellectuals

2018-08-03 17:23:21 UTC

It can however, build amazing survivalists

2018-08-03 17:23:22 UTC

Which helped in Africa

2018-08-03 17:23:27 UTC

Even Scandinavian hunter gatherer/farming would build intellectual folks because it requires long term planning and critical thinking to assess uses of limited resources

2018-08-03 17:23:56 UTC

But there is intelligence that doesn't show up in IQ

2018-08-03 17:23:57 UTC

European stable climate allowed for flourishing intellectualism

2018-08-03 17:24:09 UTC

Same with Asian

2018-08-03 17:24:11 UTC

for instance inuits are very good at remembering where to go and have different enlarged parts of their brain

2018-08-03 17:24:25 UTC

but that's not tested by IQ nor really by the modern economy

2018-08-03 17:24:36 UTC

Polynesians are better at breathing under water

2018-08-03 17:25:03 UTC

I don't really think we should on an individual level assess people at their work place based on IQ, but for migrant groups we definitely should because the US Gov refuses to only take elite subsamples

2018-08-03 17:25:16 UTC

Europeans/Asians will always be at an advantage in a modern, western society

2018-08-03 17:25:17 UTC

like if we took the top 5% of mexicans this would not be an issue, but illegals are basically the bottom 20%

2018-08-03 17:25:29 UTC

Europeans/Asians will always be at an advantage in a modern, western society

2018-08-03 17:25:36 UTC

Because of high iq

2018-08-03 17:25:40 UTC

Which is necessary

2018-08-03 17:25:47 UTC

For western societies today

2018-08-03 17:25:59 UTC

Most people misconstrue any argument for wanting high IQ to saying high IQ is the end all be all

2018-08-03 17:26:00 UTC

Whites couldnโ€™t survive in the African jungle

2018-08-03 17:26:09 UTC

It's similar to stuff like bodybuilding

2018-08-03 17:26:14 UTC

you have a genetic muscular potential

2018-08-03 17:26:16 UTC

Vice Versa with Europe

2018-08-03 17:26:21 UTC

but of course since no one works out

2018-08-03 17:26:27 UTC

if you try hard you can be better than 95% of men probably

2018-08-03 17:27:01 UTC

Obesity was only recorded in the 1870โ€™s

2018-08-03 17:27:14 UTC

Because people had agrarian jobs

2018-08-03 17:27:21 UTC

and the economy functions off IQ primarily

2018-08-03 17:27:38 UTC

In modern society yes

2018-08-03 17:27:48 UTC

so taking these low IQ migrants is similar to taking people with low muscular potential and forcing them into a bodybuilding competition that decides their entire life

2018-08-03 17:27:53 UTC

it's not fair

2018-08-03 17:27:55 UTC

The dumb kid in 1700 could still plant seeds and farm

2018-08-03 17:27:57 UTC

yeah

2018-08-03 17:28:01 UTC

Today itโ€™s different

2018-08-03 17:28:10 UTC

The USA/Europe sets these migrants up to fail

2018-08-03 17:28:18 UTC

Yeah

2018-08-03 17:28:19 UTC

because they don't screen ones who are literally genetically unfit for western society

2018-08-03 17:28:25 UTC

they're too fucking stupid

2018-08-03 17:28:36 UTC

They could be happy average farmers in somalia

2018-08-03 17:28:41 UTC

but they'll be retards in slums in america

2018-08-03 17:28:50 UTC

Thatโ€™s basically it

2018-08-03 17:28:57 UTC

I feel bad for them even

2018-08-03 17:29:06 UTC

but then you realize they're also leeches that hurt us

2018-08-03 17:29:12 UTC

Their grandchildren might be slightly more accustomed, but not by much

2018-08-03 17:29:14 UTC

basically by necessity

2018-08-03 17:29:42 UTC

IQ is not a guarantee of anything

2018-08-03 17:29:45 UTC

it is a prerequisite

2018-08-03 17:30:03 UTC

Itโ€™s a check mark in society

2018-08-03 17:30:06 UTC

yeah

2018-08-03 17:30:10 UTC

Western society

2018-08-03 17:30:13 UTC

If your IQ is below 90 you are simply fucked

2018-08-03 17:30:15 UTC

I would require people to hit a certain level on the SAT because it would both screen foreign language and it correlates highly with IQ for people who do speak english

2018-08-03 17:30:27 UTC

SAT is a good IQ test

2018-08-03 17:30:31 UTC

itโ€™s also an established test

2018-08-03 17:30:32 UTC

correlates very well

2018-08-03 17:30:40 UTC

the issue is you can study for it

2018-08-03 17:30:48 UTC

so that's really what skews it

2018-08-03 17:31:00 UTC

I donโ€™t think it does

2018-08-03 17:31:13 UTC

No like

2018-08-03 17:31:13 UTC

I got nearly a perfect score on my SATโ€™s

2018-08-03 17:31:24 UTC

I ofcourse did well on my ACT yeah

2018-08-03 17:31:28 UTC

But thatโ€™s more on how much you prep

2018-08-03 17:31:31 UTC

but I didn't have the ACT prep courses my fellow students did

2018-08-03 17:31:37 UTC

I still got in the top 85%

2018-08-03 17:31:41 UTC

There are certain tricks to those tests

2018-08-03 17:31:44 UTC

with no studying

2018-08-03 17:31:50 UTC

but no one ever taught me how to take it

2018-08-03 17:32:01 UTC

I have a good example

2018-08-03 17:32:04 UTC

I'm sure if I studied I could have gotten 99th

2018-08-03 17:32:22 UTC

Take New York Cityโ€™s SHSAT test

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