As much as I hate to use that

We have to defend somehow honestly. Forming a human chain = obvious breakthroughs.

getting a forum going on my site

OCfag here, your CC shit sucks

https://youtu.be/TlX2GSy01VM

Batons, clubs, mace, and fists.

since i seem to be the one actually developing stuff

Actually an actual group effort is to set ground rules for what we can and can't bring depending on the state

PM me for link

We have to defend somehow honestly. Forming a human chain = obvious breakthroughs.

We need people who know what they are talking about

Who have experience rather than imagining things

We should be non-lethal by nature.

Anyone got a lathe?

We could custom make batons.

We're not doing fucking batons

Jesus fucking christ

there is no non-lethel only less-than-lethal

Weapons are on the table but simple shields already employed in riots are off the table?

nigger fuck you, batons are cool as shit.

Nigger neck yourself

We are not a fucking police organization

Good god damn this isn't fucking hard

At the moment our plan for irl action isn't as an overt group

It's as individuals

Antifa brings batons and shit to fucking beat innocent people. Nigger, if we are going to be staring these people down in the streets and countering their protests we should be ready on their level.

I'll be honest though, how do 5 of us stop 100 of them?

Good for fucking them, let them

so no shields?

It shows the whole fucking world that they're the facists they claim to hate

@D3VNT http://www.gunbroker.com/item/617701902

This is a culturual war

Exposing these fucks to normies will me more effective than getting into fights with them

damnit

Culturual wars are won and lost in the PR of normalfags

well all show up on horseback

@Anticom LR They're pussies. They attack women and children and single men. You get a couple big guys with ***batons*** and they'll crumble.

You wanna win a culturual war? You have to play the victim game

We CAN NOT be the violent group

Or even a reactionary force

I wanna smash those fucks too but going out to fight them is just not as effective

I don't think anyone on the left cares about the victim game

for us

You'd be surprised

Berkely was actually a victory for us

I think @tinaVey said it best: we're gonna be viewed as Nazis no matter what we do.

One step at a time

We likely won't have to even fight those pansies. Our presence alone would keep them in their be honest.

Right now the most effective weapon against AntiFa is a camera

here's something I put together

https://youtu.be/3MPQxaa9NoU

lol antifa were throwing rocks at the police, don't fucking kid yourself they're not going to throw rocks at you

So let them throw rocks

I understand that, but it'd be nice to deal a double defeat. One where they turn normies off to them as they already do, and a physical defeat that will inspire normies to join us

have fun standing around having bottles thrown at you 'playing the victim'

Let one of them cut your eyebrow

@Cœur de Lion is right

Get it shown on camera

What we need is "camera squads"

^ytes

people to defend those holding camera

wait your actually saying show up get hit by rocks and cry on camera

1 guy with camera and four or five defending them

I agree with the whole camera thing. They are fucking terrified of people recording their violence. Hidden cams and everything are the best, but we DO fucking need a way to defend ourselves.

@D3VNT you're right, the culture war of the utmost importance. But we should be ready to meet them at the protests to counter them.

Literally, yes, because you're not going to destroy communism by beating up edgy, angsty teenagers

We do our best to document, get their faces

yes

Again, the question is non-violence or self defense. What are we trying to accomplish if a fight actually occurs? You can't have it both ways when the shit hits the fan.

Defeat them with logic *tip*

then we shame them in public and help cops pursue prosecution

Again, that's on you

Both non-violence and self defense.

There's already Trump anti-protestors going to these protests. A little bit of organization and some balls would inspire people

Nigger if someone punches you are you just going to be a pacifist?

Defend yourselves within your legal rights to do so

we can also use their shit for propaganda

Self defense and non-violence.

But stay within the confines of the law, naturually

We can have a anticom news that exposes the antifa

That's more or less the objective

We're not fucking brownshirts

Antifa is brownshirts

@D3VNT we've already established that we aren't going to be the ones initiating contact at all.

@D3VNT Which is why there needs to be group leaders and chapter leaders telling people what they can and cannot do as well as bring

And the idea is to show the world that this is the case

helps frame anti-fa as antif free speech as well

@DakGeth yeah we're working on that

@D3VNT In terms of legal advice I mean

We don't need legal advice

How the fuck do you function in real life

Don't break the god damned law

the big thing people can be doing right now is making sock accounts and infiltrating their social media network

@D3VNT Yea we do, if one of the members in a chapter goes off rails and brings weapons that makes us all look bad

How is that difficult

@everyone **I'm going to start making flyers for us to actually pass out and put around cities, is this agreed as the American logo? White ring for international?**

@D3VNT It is difficult for some people

how about just an american flag

If they go off the rails we've lost control over that group anyway