since i seem to be the one actually developing stuff

Actually an actual group effort is to set ground rules for what we can and can't bring depending on the state

PM me for link

We have to defend somehow honestly. Forming a human chain = obvious breakthroughs.

We need people who know what they are talking about

Who have experience rather than imagining things

We should be non-lethal by nature.

Anyone got a lathe?

We could custom make batons.

We're not doing fucking batons

Jesus fucking christ

there is no non-lethel only less-than-lethal

Weapons are on the table but simple shields already employed in riots are off the table?

nigger fuck you, batons are cool as shit.

Nigger neck yourself

We are not a fucking police organization

Good god damn this isn't fucking hard

At the moment our plan for irl action isn't as an overt group

It's as individuals

Antifa brings batons and shit to fucking beat innocent people. Nigger, if we are going to be staring these people down in the streets and countering their protests we should be ready on their level.

I'll be honest though, how do 5 of us stop 100 of them?

Good for fucking them, let them

so no shields?

It shows the whole fucking world that they're the facists they claim to hate

@D3VNT http://www.gunbroker.com/item/617701902

This is a culturual war

Exposing these fucks to normies will me more effective than getting into fights with them

damnit

Culturual wars are won and lost in the PR of normalfags

well all show up on horseback

@Anticom LR They're pussies. They attack women and children and single men. You get a couple big guys with ***batons*** and they'll crumble.

You wanna win a culturual war? You have to play the victim game

We CAN NOT be the violent group

Or even a reactionary force

I wanna smash those fucks too but going out to fight them is just not as effective

I don't think anyone on the left cares about the victim game

for us

You'd be surprised

Berkely was actually a victory for us

I think @tinaVey said it best: we're gonna be viewed as Nazis no matter what we do.

One step at a time