Entire towns have lost white majorities

The southern states are the ones that lost jobs to immigrant labor

Especially California

Not the rust belt

I'm sorry button but immigration isn't the main cause of our industrial collapse

Hi sorry button but immigration isn't the main cause of our industrial collapse, I'm Dad!

Colored migration is a universal peril, haunting every corner of White America

As much as you would want it to be

It was economic and trade policy

it's both

they both are

^

No

Thank you

Again I tell you

Look at he graphs

they're both problems and we have to fix both of them

I'll send them when I get home fine

doesn't matter if one is lesser or more, they all must be fixed

Just to prove you wrong, what killed our industrial sector was NAFTA and China joining the WTO

it was

Zak and Jeb are simply related to immigrants

Our industrial sector grew after the 1965 immigration act

it may be the major reason, but there are other contributions

Well now you're just trying to disagree on specifics, the argument is the most substantial impact on our industry came from bad trade and economic policy and not immigration

Immigration has destroyed other native working classes yes

I don't care about the most

But not the rust belt

I want to fix it all

I agree with Zak it goes back to our economic policy

every single problem

Ok but the issue FLanon

Is fixing what is going to have the most effect

fixing both

Immigration is all that matters

If you fix trade and economic, you'll bring back he industrial sector substantially more than immigration

Any issue you think is more important,

But yeah we should fix both

Is not

According to vast majority of American voters you're wrong button

Immigration isn't the #1 issue

Prove it?

We do need to fix both but our biggest problem is our economic policy

I can when I get home

our biggest problem is immigration

Trump won because of immigration

All the recent polls done for what is the most important for the voters has immigration 3rd or bellow

This is a fact

Below*

we can fix economics with just a bill

we're gonna take major steps to fix demographics

Trump didn't win because of muh economic anxiety

That's idiotic

Just sayin

The data doesn't agree with tou

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/02/27/us/politics/most-important-problem-gallup-polling-question.html

All recent polls put immigration at 3rd or below

You have no data

I don't care about what people think is the biggest problem

I will get you some when I get glme

I know what the biggest problem is

FLanon you win seats by handing what's popular

We can't fix immigration without seats

It's what mattered for Trump's primary voters

And it's what still does

The system isn't about appealing to the majority to win

It's about persuading the majority to your beliefs

FLanon how do you expect to pass immigration reform without a majority.

zak depends immigrants simply because he is a child of immigrants

you missed the point

You handle the popular issues, so you get more seats

read my phrase again

no, you make the issues that matter the popular issues

Yeah you changed what I said

As I was "appealing" to the majority

immigration was on no one's mind in 2015

No, you missed the point

Welp there's two so far @🎃Boo-ton🎃

>july 2017

Idiot

I don't care what people think is most important, it's about getting people to shift priorities.

Lol

Button it's newer than your 2016 primary exit poll argument

Which are extremely unreliable

Immigration wasn't on anyone's mind in 2015, but Trump made it that way.

What matters is what voters thought when they voted for Trump in the primaries

Exit polls said Clinton was goin to win the 2016 election

Immigration was what pushed Trump to victory

Yep

No it wasn’t

It was the first thing out of his mouth

In the primary's yes

In the general no

@Jebber22 (IN-08) Stupid moron, all the data disagrees with you

The primaries are why he's even in there

It's the base

What did you call me? @🎃Boo-ton🎃

Go back to whatever country you came from, illiterate third world filth

Pathetic @🎃Boo-ton🎃

Lol ya okay 👌

How old are you again?

Immigration is the issue that will determine whether our country will survive in the next decades, to pretend otherwise is pure stupidity

Lol and @FLanon throws a fit when I say "we aren't doing well in the polls" but when Button calls our College republican chair a "illiterate third world filth" you do nothing

Yeah heroic leader

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 I never said it wasn't

My argument button

Is he attack popular issues first

that's different than doomposting

So we have a compfy supermajority to handle@immigration

and the **sigh**

Two teirs FLanon, it's obvious you only got mad at me cause I was against you and you lose it.

the thing is he literally made immigration a big issue

8 out of 10 Trump voters said that they felt American way of life was being threatened by immigration

But when button loses it its ok

Prove me wrong, genius

lmao I didn't dunce either of you that night we tested out the 8ball

it was banter

In the bot channel

no different

Oh I was unaware that it doesn't matter what we say in what channel no, ok.

Great to know, what a fantastic leader you are.

Change the rules to suit you

stop it with the passive-aggressiveness.

Button slanders a great asset we have and you sit down and go "yeah well you told me *sigh*"

take it or leave it

It's amusing

neither of you are dunced right now

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/525771/

What a stupid waste of time that was

fact of the matter is, while immigration is an important issue, you can't treat it as the only issue

there are people who vote for Trump and GOP for reasons other than immigration

Every time this happens it results to FLanon deep throating Button Mash all the way to his gullet, and nothin solved.

now, immigration seems to be the biggest portion

Exactly @Deleted User @zakattack04

but you can't just dismiss all the other issues and focus solely on immigration

@Deleted User yep that was my point

it's arguably the most important issue because of demographics, but when it comes to winning elections, you can't treat it as the only thing

Well what else is Trump supposed to do

The economy is soaring and yet his approval is net -10

We have no foreign policy crises yet and he's less popular than Jimmy Carter at this point of his presidency

He's not enacting the populist policies he ran on

I don't believe that for a second

Trump as unpopular as Carter

He is

Even democrats hated Carter, yet Trump stilll has 82-90% of republican support

The polling averages match up

Because Republicans are only 35% of the country

"The data is all there, it all matches up! I just don't have the data!"

Everyone else hates hin

You sound like Alex Jones

Look at fivethirtyeight

I deepthroat button mash?

Nate Silver lol

Are you serious?

Yeah

The data is there, you moron

You do

You just did.

I have to police him like every other minute

His fat dooming cock all the way in your throat

Is this a joke

Oh but you're right FLanon

I was in the wrong

How do you get the 35% @🎃Boo-ton🎃

Because I went *sigh*

How terrible of me

I had BM on dunce way longer than you yesterday

@Jebber22 (IN-08) Pew Research and Gallup

Substantially worse than Button calling one of our new greatest asserts a "illiterate 3rd world immigrant"

That's what I would do

Just stand and say nothing

I didn't dunce either of you today, it's just fuckin banter

Don't cry about it

That's banter? But saying *sigh* is a demoralizing xD

mental gymnastics are reaching new heights

You're basically a democrat at this point

If you continue with it by going on about how it's over then yes

Your tactics are the same

Lmao

at the very least, BM is taking our soyboy accusations to heart and is improving

higher test

BM isn't s soy boy

He wears a tie too work, he's just a doomposter

kind of acts like one

the mood swings are like a woman

And you act like a spinless faggot, OH look everyone we're all making observations!

I better be careful not to say sigh to much

stop getting so pissed off

ffs

Otherwise it'd be doomposting

Sorry the reality of things don't fit your 3D chess God-Emperor narrative, Trumpsters

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1526311635314.jpg

no, you follow it up with some shit about "da democrats always win" every time

*sigh* Oh I'm sorry for demoralizing everyone and making us lose

but there is evidence of le 4d chess

If only I didn't say sigh

btw they figured out the formula

sheeeitttttt

If I said were going to win no matter what

Like you dod

Did*

@FLanon oh shit yeah I forgot that we found out BM is hispanic female lol

I should be more like you FLanon

clueless and foolish

"Red storm is confirmed happenejn!"

BM is white you dunce

when have I ever said that

He sent a picture of himself

or anything like that

He wears a shirt and a tie, he's professional

You always talk like that

Whenever I suggest bad news like NC was

You flip out "OMG doomposting!"

>implying I can't find a random pic of some guy's hand in less than a minute

when did I ever say that the red storm was a certainty

"Guys look st Ohio! We're winning!" :DD

I took the night as a net good

"North Carolina isn't bad news, it's only like 2 districts."

It wasn't fgood

Doesn't mean I'm delusional

You blinded yourself to make@it@seem@good

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 right?

I never said that either

We're gonna have to take extra work with those districts

Ohio primary numbers don't tell us much, but

1. there is an improvement from 2014
2. fact of the matter is, GOP got more votes than the D's
3. there's no evidence from May 8 to support the narrative that GOP voters are staying home

remember, the reason we lost PA-18 and Alabama was GOP voters staying home

but my analysis was that it was because they were special elections

it's easy to get out to vote when you know about the date months ahead of time in November, and it's the BIG date for the whole country

but if it's a special election....for your area only....it's easy to think "why should I even care"

especially when there's going to be another election anyway in November

I point out bad news, the truth, and you squeal like a pig on how I'm am "demoralizing everyone" and this is "muh strategy server" so OBVIOUSLY we only talk about fake unrelated victories when it's a strategy discord!

Have you made one piece of content in your time here

problem is

1. your analysis isn't always accurate
2. even if it is, clogging up the Discord with things that encourage hopelessness is counterproductive

fact of the matter is, this IS a strategy Discord

there was a time span after PA-18 where this Discord was 90% Button Mash and zak doomposting

I don't doompost, button does sometimes as a joke, with "ITS over" but amid anything our analyze is more correct then yours.
Furthermore, this "it's counterproductive" is only what you find counterproductive

It's just because you don't want to hear the truth

thing is, it doesn't seem like a joke

Fair

"our analysis is more correct than yours"

lol

"is only what you find counterproductive"

and I find it counterproductive because of legit reasons - it demoralizes others, it seems to only serve your gratuitous desire to feel like things are hopeless, it takes up time and energy and focus that could be better spent actually having an effect on spaces outside this Discord

I think you both have been on record as saying you make people feel hopeless to make yourselves feel good

@FLanon bet

I can bet my life that's not true, because I know it's not.

@Deleted User if you want to be a successful movement, we're going to have to learn to handle bad news, instead of just hiding from it behind the "it's counterproductive" argument.

but we are handling bad news and we're totally fine with "hearing the truth"

we just know that

1. what truly matters is how you react to bad news
2. sometimes 'bad news' is actually good news if you look past the surface level analysis

> sometimes 'bad news' is actually good news if you look past the surface level analysis

muh 4d chess

well _analyze_ THIS news, Trumpsters,

Trump has now selected five failed Obama nominees as district-court picks.

What's the genius behind this, why pick Obama-era nominees that were too liberal to get past a Republican Congress