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Of course they want more
If we do not appear to care about this invasion, whites will not care to go to the polls
This tbh
If we're going to pander to anyone,
We do not under any circumstances advertise in a foreign language
Whites
it should be everyone EXCEPT Hispanics
Advertise those messages to whites then
advertise different messages to hispanics
Remember,
It really isn't fucking hard
Yep
Fuck off
for some historical context,
We speak English here
in 1994,
Not speaking the invaders language
It's fucking easy to run facebook ads for different groups
english for whites
Joe Wilson tied himself to Prop 187
spanish for hispanics
And he won overwhelmingly on White voters
We need to make unity clear if we want to win
2/3 of California Whites voted for Wilson
You haven't listened to a fucking word i've said
57% of California Blacks voted for Wilson
58% of California Asians voted for Wilson
only Hispanics voted against Wilson
We need to pander to our voter base, WHITES
Reduce hispanic turnout
There's your answer
Not appeal to minority ethnic groups who are invading our nation. We need to make the CivNat appeal to win in CA.
Wow
That is so easy
Increase white turnout
That's my answer
^
Tell them that the democrats are crazy abortion feinds
Less of them will go to the polls and we will win
I think it's common knowledge at this point
Tell white people that you're anti immigration
I don't think Hispanics care
A lot of them are just ignorant of anything politically
It worked in Texas
When
Hispanic turnout dropped and a few crossed over
2014
Because Wendy Davi is just a pro abortion maniac
*Davis
In 2010 the Hispanic vote split 61-38
2014 it split 55-44
There's a kind of voter that will win us in California
It's not this
It's this
White voters also swung more republican
Yeah
So it's not impossible to deal with both groups
So let's inprove that
and you lot don't know what the fuck you're talking about
Bitch
It is if we're trying to appeal to the voters that are the problem
You straight Retarded
We're not appealing to the
*them
Yes you are
It's voter depression
basic 101 politics
Wowo
BSBSJJS
You can't win both actively, it's a choice.
You don't win both
You depress your opponents turnout
And increase your own
That's how politics works
We depress our own turnout if we appeal to the enemy
No one sees it
You don't see it
You don't see the same shit that's advertised to hispanics
You autist
FB ads are highly targeted
WOWOW
WE WIN
We need to create the perception that if Hispanics show up to vote, they risk deportation
Yeah, I highly doubt Spanish advertising will compromise the white vote.
We need the white Californian rage to win in CA.
That's how you depress turnout
Let's be fucking honest white people don't understand spanish
OHHH
Didn't know that
Hispanics do and they will hear the messga
THAT'S WHY WE SHOULDN'T FUCKING DO THAT
You are straight Retarded
white people will just be like *whatever*
Yeah sure
Actually shut the fuck up and listen
No u
Hear him out hold on
You fat Autistic faggot
I want to rebuke this
@Deleted User Show respect.
Okay, let's hear it
You advertise in Spanish to hispanics saying the Democrats are pro abortion maniacs (or whatever else will turn hispanics against the Democrats)
Overall they will be less likely to turnout and vote on election day
Only one problem with that
And hell some may even cross over to support us (not a large group but still)
and what's that?
Hispanics don't care about abortion
They certainly do in Texas
They certainly do in Texas
I'd imagine that Hispanic farm workers (in the central valley areas) do as well
Trump won because of White Anger
But this is California
And he was able to depress minority turnout
Through clever advertising
No one in California is majority conservative
If any Republican wants to win in CA, they need lower Hispanic turnout
The kind of person who votes R in California is the one sick of hispanics taking over the country
And?
Whites in CA are swing voters
It'll be hard enough to win their vote
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Well that's your problem
Omg
The Democrats are the de-facto representatives of the invaders, and we represent the voter who wants to fight the invasion
I'm just addressing one side of it (voter depression)
Hi just addressing one side of it (voter depression), I'm Dad!
If we appear to not care about it, then we lose those who would vote for us from the beginning
Targeted advertising is key. While you definitely desire focusing on whites, advertising to subvert the turnout of other groups is a no-brainer given how multicultural CA is. You can't just win whites to win in CA.
@Deleted User @FLanon 66% of Hispanics say that abortion should be legal in most or all cases
Go for the 1/3 who don't
?
where are they exactly?
^***
A significant amount of that support the Dems
where would you target them?
Facebok
That is literally the best media for targetted advertising
Where in California are they
Central valley probably
Maybe right on the border as well (imperial county)
If the figure is to be believed, then telling them dems support abortion would actually cause them to turnout for dem
It would serve as a damn reminder
the rural areas of CA simply won't carry a Republican to the top
They contain Hispanic pro life voters who support the dems
we'll need the affluent suburbs of Anaheim and Fresno
reduce their turnout
And it becomes much easier for any R to win
San Diego too
Then you target adverts that will appeal to those voters
Palm Springs to a lesser extent
Every non white group voted over 70% in California for Hillary
Their actual vote doesn't matter
Their turnout does
70% of a group supporting a candidate doesn't mean shit if their turnout is crasp
Okay, let's talk about turnout
What's the issue Spics are most sensitive about that Democrats support?
Probably abortion.
So keep hispanics from involving themsleves politically completely
Abortion is really the main one I can think of.
There are two reasons why Democratic voters (Blacks) didn't show up
Obama wasn't on the ballot and Trump was able to dirty Hillary's image
1.) They thought Hillary would win easily, so there was no point in showing up
2.) They weren't thrilled about Hillary like they were about Obama
The Trump campaign openly said their goal was to reduce black turnout
And they succeeded very much in that aim
Here's the problem with your theory
This is Trump we're talking about, he didn't have a better image with Black voters,
The aim isn't to get black voters to cross over and vote trump
It's to get them to stay home
He said he didn't know who David Duke was, for crying out loud
Not relevent
You attack your opponent (for saying super predators in this case) and you get that message to black precincts in cities like Philly and milwaukee
Look, I agree with your strategy
minimizing the minority vote is key,
And their turnout will decrease enough for you to win
but your approach is wrong
it's about the how
How would you approach it?
Hispanics don't care about abortion,
The civnat approach
It was an example
like Alabama Black Protestants didn't care about it with pro-choice Doug Jones
How is that going to get people to *not* vote?
That's it, you make the appeal to America or the appeal to whites
You don't depress their turnout that way.
Having ads in Spanish talking about abortion does not decrease minority turnout buddy
A immigration restrictionist Democrat would depress turnout among Hispanics @Deleted User
It's not just about depressing theirs but improving ours
It worked in Texas
Then you have other messages targeted to those voters
Maybe they didn't show up because they were complacent?
Because Obama was in office?
Button said himself - whites are only barely 50% of the electorate.
They showed up in bigger numbers back in 2010
Obama was certainly in office back then
Just don't remind them to vote by not even touching them
was 2010 bigger than in 2008?
2010 was bigger for Obama than 2014
We need to increase our outreach to whites, we need to get more whites to our sides
And we can do that
while simultaneously targeting other ethnic groups
to reduce their turnouts
A normal white guy doesn't like seeing a commerical in spanish talking about Hispanic issues
That's why you don't show that to them
That would make no sense
?????
FB ads allow you to strictly control who sees what
The hispanics like abortion in CA though, so what's the difference?
What would telling them anything do?
There are going to be ones who don't
That's why you go down further
There are going to be ones who don't
targetting those who show more catholic leanings
Nibba what
hispanics who show explicitly pro choice or atheist leanings
don't advertise to them
How
Facebook knows literally everything about you
Okay, more historical context
How many Hispanics are on Facebook
In 1988,
George H.W. Bush won California
He won only 50.4% of the vote,
1988 isn't relevent
Are you kidding me
We couldn't target advertising like we can now
with 75% of the White vote
Hmmmmm
If we want to win, today,
we'll need to make the electorate look like 1988
8.7 million hispanics on facebook who only speak spanish
Hereโs a picture I wanted to show everyone
in california?
that are catholic?
Yes
40% of that number will be catholic
3,200,000
Whites made up 67.5% of the Electorate in CA circa 1988,
Today, they make up 47%
if we can boost our numbers,
The only realistic way to do that now is to reduce hispanic turnout
And increase white turnout
Yes
and scare off non-whites
So let's pander to whites
we just may get to 67.5%
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